I only have ONE issue with Fioras rework

Tik115··8 votes·719 views

_Each time she destroys a weak spot, she deals percent max health true damage. If she’s able to destroy all four weak spots, or if she destroys at least one before her target dies, Fiora creates a large and long-lasting zone under her enemy that heals Fiora and her allied champions. _

she deals percent max health true damage. If she’s able to destroy all four weak spots

she deals percent max health true damage

percent max health true damage

Riot, Look, there are two things that stops squishy carries like Fiora, Yi and any ADC that isn't Vayne and that is CC and Tanks

You already changed her W to lessen one of them but the ult pretty much removes the last one, even if the true damage % is Vayne levels if she hits all 4 points that's 32% of uncountable damage (Obviously basing it off Vaynes silver bolts since we don't have numbers yet but still) which for a tank makes them useless, The heal? that's fine that's her reward BUT it's not so much of a risk if she's dealing % true damage ON TOP of her basic attacks/ skills

Can't you change it to say % Max Physical or Magic? or missing? Iunno something OTHER then % max health true damage, Vayne is bad enough

11 Comments

Radnar the bold3 votes

She has to move around the target and get those four slices off. In lane thats gonna be "easy" (I use that word loosely), but in a teamfight? Her new ult is useless in a teamfight, people can just cc her and then escape. Her old ult was badass.

Craft Zeppelin2 votes

I would have liked it more better if you landed four strikes you make a execution move, sounds more duelist like for a reward

AyRe CoNteMpT2 votes

well shes an assassin now, not a duelist.

Marthian6 votes

Her old kit was basically an assassin for the burst and stickiness it had.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

her old kit was a duelists kit and because duelists must have every means to kill a person, it gets confused with an assassin easily. but only by noobs.

a duelist is a champion who can kill strong fighters and bruisers and also everyone else. an assassin is someone who can quickly kill only unaware or squishy targets but probably has more mobility or is burstier. duelists and fighters will ALWAYS be stronger than assassins because they have to.

old fiora could duel almost everybody. one of the strongest champions in the game at fighting. very cool design and very skill-reliant. this new thing is like whatever, its not like you can "run around" strong fighters to proc their weak spots. you might proc one and then instantly die.

ChaosThief2 votes

It fits the thematic of a duelist more to be fair though.

In a one on one (a duel) she wins most times because of this. But if she fights with a group, it'll be pretty lackluster.

TehNACHO1 votes

{quoted}

Riot, Look, there are two things that stops squishy carries like Fiora, Yi and any ADC that isn't Vayne and that is [...] Tanks

Which is funny when you consider that DPS Champs as a whole are supposed to counter Tanks.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

yes, tanks are not supposed to stop fighters, at least not on their own. they do in teamfights for a duration if they have damage behind them, but tanks cant really "tank" damage in league. thats not what tanks are made for. tanks can only soak cooldowns while using their own to buy time for their team.

if you play a "tank" and you try to soak their damage, it means you didnt understand the concept of tanking.

also, nobody should be able to beat a fighter/duelist champion in a 1on1 except a stronger fighter/duelist. and no one currently is. and thats good.

Captain Aishi1 votes

the video on surrenderat20 seems to indicate around 10%maxhp per hit (based off of lux having around 1700-1800 total hp, taking a 331 crit and 3 normal autos (837 physical damage) and being left with around 200hp

Variks the Loyal1 votes

It's a lot different than Vayne.

With Fiora, the true damage is tied to her ultimate, which is going to have an extensive cooldown. You can only activate the damage four times. You need to reposition around your target to activate it. There's counterplay, not only for the victim, but the victim's teammates in keeping Fiora away.

Vayne's true damage is a no cooldown passive. She can activate is as often as she wants, no matter how she's attacking. She's ranged with a dash, so she's hard to evade. There is no counterplay besides Randuin's or Frozen Heart.

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