Azir, King of Sands and Arguments

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Sparked by the recent Champion Roadmap, some new idea for Azir have been presented. This is sparked by Azirs balance issues between high and low Elo players.

Riot: At the center of all these issues is the Shurima Shuffle, which is his ability to dash a pretty long distance and use his ult to force an engagement or escape a tough situation. We are currently looking at two possible solutions to the Shurima Shuffle dilemma. One would be to keep the shuffle and build a supporting kit that can co-exist with this iconic move. The other solution would be to remove the shuffle and push his kit closer towards his thematic, which is that of an Emperor commanding his sand soldiers from the backline.

This post had the "Emperor from the back lines" supporters shouting the loudest by far. Other times the "Shurima Shuffle" lovers have dominated the boards.

Shurima Shuffle option: reduced range, making Shuffle more difficult but still possible. Higher mobility and damage. Kit remains mostly unchanged besides numbers.

Emperor from Backlines option: increase range, increase soldier duration, and focus on late game hyper carry. Reduced mobility likely translates to rework of dash into another move.

Fan's provide many different concepts for what Azir's new move would be.

Theory 1 [Mini Dash]: still a dash but not to soldiers and only in target direction. Short range and large cooldown.

Theory 2 [Summon new soldiers]: Idea of summoning archers that don't move with his Q. Allows more of "late game hyper carry" focus and more soldiers, making commander of armies feel very potent.

Vote bellow for what you believe is the right sirection for Azir and point out your own thoughts on where he should go.

6 Comments

Handy Sandy 4 votes

When you play Azir most of the time you just want to sit back and provide long range waveclear, zoning, and DPS. The shuffle just messes up his whole kit and it doesn't fit his identity at all. If you just remove the shuffle, you can open up rooms to buff him and possibly create some type of engage tank in the future that has something similar in their kit. I'd rather give him some cc or something even more unique, an ability like cho's spikes that just gives him a passive instead of an ability. Maybe some sort of attack speed steroid or something that gives a % slow/more dmg with soldiers? Maybe even some CC in his kit that involves soldiers running into an enemy, disintegrating, and rooting the target? If his dash is removed then I'd have absolutely no problem with his ult staying the same. You can still have some presence in roams, ulting ppl away from their tower, and you'd have self peel that is decently balanced since it takes such a long time to actually get in front of you a lot of assassins can burst you before they're knocked up.

Viktor Von Lazer2 votes

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When you play Azir most of the time you just want to sit back and provide long range waveclear, zoning, and DPS. The shuffle just messes up his whole kit and it doesn't fit his identity at all. If you just remove the shuffle, you can open up rooms to buff him and possibly create some type of engage tank in the future that has something similar in their kit. I'd rather give him some cc or something even more unique, an ability like cho's spikes that just gives him a passive instead of an ability. Maybe some sort of attack speed steroid or something that gives a % slow/more dmg with soldiers? Maybe even some CC in his kit that involves soldiers running into an enemy, disintegrating, and rooting the target? If his dash is removed then I'd have absolutely no problem with his ult staying the same. You can still have some presence in roams, ulting ppl away from their tower, and you'd have self peel that is decently balanced since it takes such a long time to actually get in front of you a lot of assassins can burst you before they're knocked up.

100% agree with you on all points. The shuffle is just unnecessary. Keeping it cause it's "iconic" then latter nerfing him into the ground because it's problematic AGAIN isn't going to solve anything. People complain that Azir will stop being "unique" and just be another long range artillery game. I disagree with that view completely. He is the only long range sustained AoE DPS mage and zone control mage in the game, and I consider that pretty unique. Cassiopeia has shorter range but does higher single target DPS giving her clear strengths/weakness against him. Karthus does high AoE sustained DPS which is maintained through his passive, rather than range (kill azir no more damage and easier to with the E, kill Karthus he still does damage). Xerath and ziggs do short amounts of burst damage but they aren't sustained DPS dealers they poke tanks they don't shred them and they provide zone control only really through threat of damage rather the unique soldier mechanics Azir brings to the table. His place as a champions is still very unique and special even without the shuffle and I think he could become an excellent (but balanced) pick if E got replaced with any sort of cc.

SB Arneeman1 votes

I agree, the shuffle doesn't fit his thematic or the rest of the kit either. It has to be removed to make him viably powerful as a long range champion. I still think that a small rylais buff would solve a lot of midlane balancing problems, though.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Well, you made all my points for me, so all I will do is upvote and stand behind you.

Joes1 votes

Both are fantastic. But for azir's identity he has to do away with the shuffle. I love the combo it feels great when used right. I think azir should have the combo be do able in certain circumstances. I wish this is what riot would do without making it a gimmicky Aurelion Q E

Rockm Sockm1 votes

Without the shuffle his backline playstyle won't work. He will be the most vunerable champion in the game.

They already dumpstered his ult, do yuo think they are going to revert those changse or buff it further?

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