Should ADC Have highest Damage to Champions?

WitchQueen Annie·Jan 30, 2017·3 votes·7,818 views

Should the ADC in general (in a 30 min game let's say) have the highest damage dealt to champions stat?

I play some ADC and have a positive win rate in Ranked but I almost NEVER deal the most damage to champions. In fact, I'm usually 3rd (sometimes 2nd). I'm usually playing champs like Ashe and MF.

Is this really bad?

I've noticed that it tends to be the Mid taking first place and then some snow-balling Top or JG taking second. Should the ADC be consistently on top in this meta or at least more often than not? Or has that changed?

The TOTAL damage dealt by the ADC is at least 2nd highest (counting non-champion) in my games, but most of it is fired at minions or towers.

15 Comments

MLDzXnRRRJan 30, 20172 votes

You are playing a rightclicker. How would you compare to the AOE dmg dealers? Divide the damage of the AOE nuker by 5 and you get lower number than the dmg dealt by the ADC.

WitchQueen AnnieJan 30, 20171 votes

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You are playing a rightclicker. How would you compare to the AOE dmg dealers? Divide the damage of the AOE nuker by 5 and you get lower number than the dmg dealt by the ADC.

yeah I deal so much more damage when I play Viktor or Vladimir...

AnnoxisJan 30, 20171 votes

At the 30 minutes mark, I think it is normal, but the more the game advance, the more it is likely that you become the most important source of damage of your team, unless you get caught before every teamfight.

WitchQueen AnnieJan 30, 20171 votes

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At the 30 minutes mark, I think it is normal, but the more the game advance, the more it is likely that you become the most important source of damage of your team, unless you get caught before every teamfight.

I see... so I don't power spike that early?

In games where my team ROFL stomps by the 30 minute mark I'm rarely the highest damage...

AnnoxisJan 30, 20171 votes

Even so, with the damage lead taken by the AoE damage dealer, it is still possible than you dont have more titan them.

To deal significant damage as an ADC to squishies, you need your three crit items : Infinity Edge (mandatory), and then either Essence Reaver and one Zeal item, or two Zeal items, depending on the ADC.

If you want to kill tanks, you need these, and a Last Whisper item.

There are exceptions, notably Ezreal and Corki, for example and each ADC has his/her own perks than make them good at different things, but that is the fun of this game.

A DoorknobJan 30, 20171 votes

No. Usually highest dmg will go to APC. or supports like Brand or Velkoz, etc. They do a lot of dmg starting from lvl 1, and have huge and some even have DOT. But it also depends on the champ. Twitch and Ezreal usually end up having highest dmg as ADC by end game. It depends how long the game and what adc is picked. Kog maw as well is a high heavy hitter and by late game he catches up in terms of dmg and sometimes will even surpass apc.

WitchQueen AnnieJan 30, 20171 votes

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No. Usually highest dmg will go to APC. or supports like Brand or Velkoz, etc. They do a lot of dmg starting from lvl 1, and have huge and some even have DOT. But it also depends on the champ. Twitch and Ezreal usually end up having highest dmg as ADC by end game. It depends how long the game and what adc is picked. Kog maw as well is a high heavy hitter and by late game he catches up in terms of dmg and sometimes will even surpass apc.

What about Ashe in 30 mins?

Mecha MaIphiteJan 30, 20171 votes

I mean your damage doesn't really come until late game. Even tanks and bruisers could do more damage early, just by virtue of spamming AoE spells in their team.

WitchQueen AnnieJan 30, 20171 votes

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I mean your damage doesn't really come until late game. Even tanks and bruisers could do more damage early, just by virtue of spamming AoE spells in their team.

ADC has truly become a drudgery job lol

TequilaZombieJan 30, 20171 votes

ADCs at:

** 0 items: ** item 1055 item 1036 item 1083 Food for Junglers, early game Supports, roaming Mids, and TP Tops. Very low damage and below average DPS.

1 Item: item 3072 item 3031 item 3046 item 3085 or item 1038 & item 3086 combo Food for High Damage Junglers such as Assassins and Divers, not-really-supportive Supports such as Annie, Lux, Brand, Vel'Koz, etc, roaming Mids, and non-Tank Top Laners. Slightly better damage, capable of either chunking people or having a decent DPS, not both.

2 Items: Complete item 1038 item + Complete item 3086 Item Food for high damage junglers, high damage Mids, non-Tank Top laners. Decent at both Burst and DPS and slightly scary if left unchecked.

3 Items: Complete item 1038 item + Complete item 3086 Item + Something like item 3508 item 3036 item 3139 (or another one of the first 2) Food for Divers, Skirmishers, Burst Mages, and Juggernauts. Should be aware of Assassins and some Tanks if under 60% hp. Can give other classes a hell of a time. At this point the ADCs damage spikes hard. They most likely become the primary target during fights, due to dealing the most damage from this point onwards.

4+ Items: Any cookie cutter ADC build found on Mobafire/Champ.gg/Whatever Food for Burst Mages and some Assassins and Divers, can potentially fight most other classes on their own. Kill them ASAP

NekoniClawsJan 30, 20171 votes

I literally came on here to ask this question rofl!

They all seem to have different levels. Jhin (I main) definitely seems to hit mid-level with shorter games. He's a utility type like Ashe so he did trade raw damage for slows and snares.

But I'm still wondering where Ezreal should be tbh, I know I'm messing up but I'd like to know what to aim for.

EschetonJan 30, 20171 votes

That depends on the type of adc. Damage done to champions at the end of the game tends to come from laning phase and AoE abilities. Ergo, Caitlyn , Jinx and Twitch can be expected to have the highest damage stat. They poke in lane well and have damage abilities in teamfights that hit everyone. Other adc's don't poke so much in lane maybe, and are more about high sustained 1v1 dmg like Vayne . But it's not her job "to deal damage". It's her job to kill people. Does that make her any less of an adc? Course not, just means we have actual adc diversity.

Also, the longer a game goes, the higher an adc's champ dmg is relative to team-mates. It's what they do.

AimléssJan 30, 20171 votes

Well basically every adc is Nasus now, except since you're so squishy you'll probably die a lot more before you get to the 30 minute mark. The worst part about adc this season is that more than 80% of my games end at 30 mins or before, which means if I'm playing adc either my team stomps and I just watch in the background doing nothing, or the other team stomps, and I get melted by everyone from the Poppy to the Zyra. And sadly when games do rarely go passed the 30 minute mark, I actually enjoy adc. Damn shame that rarely happens.

RalanrJan 30, 20171 votes

When comparing total damage of single target vs AoE, AoE is most likely to come out on top for the weirdest reason.

Simply put, it's not killing things fast enough. Enemies take huge chunks of damage but have a small window to breath in before the next hit. Combined with hitting multiple people, the amount adds. How spread out was that damage in a teamfight? How many players did Viktor's ult hit?

Single target damage gives less breathing room and thus kills the target in a set amount of time. Eventually you'll kill them because they can't rest in between hits.

Example: Let's say Mundo ran into a teamfight, takes a whole bunch of AoE damage, escapes with a sliver of health but heals up to full in the next fight. Next fight, Mundo is focused down by the Twitch or Caitlyn with Mortal reminder, preventing his healing power and somehow (assume Mundo sucks at pathing around Caitlyn's traps) Mundo is unable to escape and dies.

Which situation did more damage to Mundo? Which situation hit his team more?