Gnar's rocking a strong 44% winrate, is there any plans for him?

DJ Lucio··12 votes·972 views

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EDIT: I suppose you guys @Riot are going to wait to see how he does with the fervor buffs, but as of late, i'm not seeing any change. I just feel he needs something to make him relevant again.

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KuroCaliber5 votes

44% isn't that strong, probably won't change anything.

SwiftKitten887 votes

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44% isn't that strong, probably won't change anything.

[slayer-jinx-unamused] your ability to spot sarcasm is truly amazing

dunder kill4 votes

Well you didn't spot his either so....

BastionKross5 votes

Gnar has a problem in that he tends to choke diversity in top lane. When he's strong, juggernauts and tanks tend to disappear since in lane Gnar behaves a lot like a Quinn but worse; you can't jump on him because he'll either hop away or get angry and duel you.

He's also an LCS darling, since he can easily counter most top laners or at least go even at that level of play. Pros salivate when they think about picking him, and that hurts pro level diversity as well.

The only time Riot should be buffing Gnar is when tanky melee champs are getting too powerful top lane. Right now, the only one that comes close to that level of domination is Darius, especially since Maokai just got the nerf bat shoved up his ass. Or whatever counts for an ass on a tree.

dunder kill1 votes

I love when Gnar is meta because he's free easy kills for my main :^)

Jefftiffy1 votes

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Gnar has a problem in that he tends to choke diversity in top lane. When he's strong, juggernauts and tanks tend to disappear since in lane Gnar behaves a lot like a Quinn but worse; you can't jump on him because he'll either hop away or get angry and duel you.

He's also an LCS darling, since he can easily counter most top laners or at least go even at that level of play. Pros salivate when they think about picking him, and that hurts pro level diversity as well.

The only time Riot should be buffing Gnar is when tanky melee champs are getting too powerful top lane. Right now, the only one that comes close to that level of domination is Darius, especially since Maokai just got the nerf bat shoved up his ass. Or whatever counts for an ass on a tree.

No the sign that top lane is in a shitty state is when full lethality Quinn is better at killing tanks and bruisers than Gnar . That is literally his job as a tank is to CC and kite low mobility champs. When an ADC/Assassin is doing his job 10x better and get to carry fights easier there is a huge problem in the top lane.

dominusx4 votes

hopefully he goes lower.

SwiftKitten885 votes

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hopefully he goes lower.

You people are despicable... I don't play gnar.. i don't OWN gnar.

But that kinda of attitude is disgusting, people like you should be banned from posting in balance related forums, because you clearly have zero understanding of the word "balance" means. Your personal hate of a champion and bias is not relevant to the balance of that said champion, and if you cant put that blatant bias behind you, you don't deserve a voice here.

dominusx4 votes

i'm a toplane player for more time than you actually play the game.And yeh a champ that wins every single lane shouldnt be allowed to be in a good spot. thank you pretty much now be gone.

DJ Lucio2 votes

He does NOT win every single lane

That's not even statistically possible

edit: forgot not

dominusx3 votes

last time i checked he is a lcs powerhouse for a reason. even when he loses lane he still maintains the aids amounts of cc he has even situational. plz stfu. let him rot. and make quinn rot aswell bring melee champs top like shen and rene back

DJ Lucio2 votes

This isn't LCS

Just because he has an "Aids" amount of CC doesn't make him broken

"OMG SION HAS A SLOW AND A STUN ON HIS Q ALONE! AND HIS ULT IS A KNOCK UP! WTF????"

Is Sion busted? Nah. Is Gnar's CC situational? Yes Do you need to manage your rage to actually use it in a team fight? Yes

Using what you said, any champion with CC is broken and should rot

dominusx1 votes

Comparing Sion to gnar good lord.. im done talking with you. gameplay forum is more braindead than the average vayne player.

DJ Lucio1 votes

You pointed out and I quote

he maintains the aids amount of cc he has even situational

Is that not saying having "AIDS CC" is busted?

Like i said, I took what you said and assumed you believe any champion with an aids amount of CC is broken.

"WOW BUT SION IS MELEE SO HE CAN'T BE BROKEN"

Is probably what you're thinking

Aptest1 votes

every time i see Renekton on top lane he eats up the other guy and win the game off the snowball.

idk maybe you top lane players just need to get back to your roots and play him a little more, lulu and ryze ain't there no more.

dominusx3 votes

i do play Rene and he is good but all you need is a janna to make him non existant. Plus he is burst focused outside lane so an exhaust makes him unplayable. + He isnt as tanky as a Mao or a Sion or a Shen etc so he falls off due to insane amounts of burst everyone dishes out. He seems oppresive due to the lenght of games in older seasons he just dominated lane ( if he dominated cause there were meta picks to deal with him like Shyv/Shen/Trund all in viable spots and he then fell off because he was built as a tank and did like 500dmg with fury.

Aptest2 votes

i am not a top lane player but in my memory most of what you said is build dependent. ofc renekton is stronger in lane than out of it because of how his mechanics work with and around minions but he doesn't fall off nearly as heavily as some other champions.

If I recall correctly the new items like new BC, both hydras favor renekton heavily and basically opened up a bunch of build options for croc, which means he doesn't fall off as much as he used to back in the day.

all in all i don't think he's an late-game-oppressive mega scaling champion but he does work in many situations and can be useful in most games and also he has a very flexible range of builds that allow him to be very adaptive and do whatever the game requires.

you add to this that he does ok in lane VS a very broad range of common picks (the end of "age of renekton" was when Ryze and Lulu came to top lane and kicked all the melee duelists out) and you get a very under-rated solid pick.

you need a front liner that will get in the face of the other team and lead the assault? can't go wrong with croc. You need someone to jump on a carry and delete him? can't go wrong with croc. You need a front line dude that will give the initiator a hand and keep the DPS coming? croc's your croc. you need to bust some tanks? croc has a build for the job.

KoggyStyle1 votes

kay then buff his damage so i can go to other lanes, also remove the fkin ragebar so enemies stop cowering a screen away.

doodlebob6661 votes

Jayce

dominusx1 votes

ppl who play him can kermit . good for nothing players. I wanna see all the Jayce abusers go back to D5 when he gets rightfully gutted.

DJ Lucio1 votes

You're a big ball of salt and toxicity

dominusx2 votes

good. thats why i'm better than you.

KoggyStyle1 votes

nasus shits on him.... if you have played a long time you would know that. illaoi is a skill match up but deletes most gnars, also gnar cant build maw vs illaoi but she can him.

KoggyStyle1 votes

i hope your main gets deleted with that attitude :)

The Deckowner3 votes

back in season 5 Gnar is basically just what Jayce is right not but worse, I wish we never see his return.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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back in season 5 Gnar is basically just what Jayce is right not but worse, I wish we never see his return.

How Gnar does DPS. Jayce does burst. Complete opposites. And gnar transitions into a tank and doesn't ramp his damage after that.

sobi9991 votes

I love yordles. I wish gnar gets some love eventhough i don't main him. I also strictly believe that all champs should be balanced but currently there are too many broken champs and too many have been forgotten. Gnar is one of them because over my 100+ games i have yet to see a gnar and over all of my pvp games i must have seen 3-4 gnars, about the same amount of time i have seen urgot and galio.

DJ Lucio1 votes

He's been weak for the last few patches.

His average winrate in the last 5 is probably like 45%

He's an extremely fun champ and one of my favorites, but he's far too weak imo

EDIT: I'm hoping the fervor changes help him out

KoggyStyle1 votes

hes fine in low elo. been trying out a new runepage and actually building him correctly.

2 flat armor 1 flat hp quint, 4 ad 5 lethality red,3 scaling hp 6 scaling armor,3 flat mr 6 scaling mr.

dorans blade bring you too 701 hp lvl1 with 33 armor 35 mr 63 ad. +1 armor /mr +4hp per lvl.

sobi9991 votes

Mega gnar and sion can be compared you dumb fk.

FalconPawwwwnch1 votes

Champ needs massive changes like azir and kalista

Currently he's an abomination and should stay bad for game health

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

he needs some mini gnar base stats buffs. thats all he needs. not sure if they will because of pro play.

no to toxic1 votes

How to fix Gnar

  1. Remove him from the game
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