A tank mains take on tanks!

BlueHeart·8/4/2018, 2:26:51 PM·6 votes·3,668 views
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Hello my name is Blue! i left my OP.GG up there so you can see i like tanks. I LOVE Poppy Maokai Leona Nautilus sure i play fighters too but i cant not try to carry every game.

But i bring this up because i do play a wide varity of tanks/tanky champions (Even my proffered fighters ofIrelia and Renekton used to just go core item tiamat item into tank given old irelia) and i think i have so changes that people will like more than the current tank changes for the likes of Nautilus and Leona while i think these changes will also help out all support tanks, one tank ive always struggled to play is TahmKench so while I personally cannot offer any help with him, perhaps a lovely person in the comments below has taken the time to actually state his/her own thoughts and give some feedback on what he/she would like to see as perhaps a TK main? however let us dig into these meal that is support tanks

GOAL: Make tank supports feel better to play and build for. Part of the reason i stopped playing bot lane was the removal of sight stone and Face of the mountain, well you know what item 3905 exists now as does item 2065 so wheres my damn Face of the Mountain equivalent? Tank support LOVED this item, the HP the CDR and that fat shield that just made Riven and Zed cry, for when me and my ADC were just trying to farm bot the saves of this thing were needed, and a item 3070 was shed at the proper timing of a mountain shield saving them from that last tick of ignite. FotM is needed even more so now when crit marksman just need more time to scale and carry. So its time for use to get a FotM, idc if its called FotM or what BUT coin supports got item 2065 and poke/catch supports got item 3905, we patiently waited last for our single target shield item and its time we got it. I even got a recommended feel good build path for these support tanks. WITH ANY ITEMS I MENTION PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TUNE THE STATS AS YOU SEE FIT IM NOT GOING TO PRETEND THAT THIS SHITS EASY I WAS UP ALL NIGHT TRYING TO MAKE THESE CHANGES MAKE SENSE AND MAKE THESE TANKS FEEL BETTER TO PLAY BUILD FOR AND BE HEALTHIER WITHOUT BREAKING THEM i spend at LEAST 8 hours doing what riots balance team does daliy, i have NEW respect for them because its like OK how do i make it so poppy doesnt just build this shit top, how do i stop the enchanters from also building this item not intened for them? OOOF i may break alistar with this, this shits hard people, im just throwing them a bone/brainstorm ideas.

TOTAL GOLD>>>IDK im not going to act like balancing this game is easy, no its really damn hard, locket total combine cost is 2200G, so lets make this item 2500 given my build path is kinda nice Stats> 400HP 45 Armor 35 Magic resist builds from item 1011 +item 3105 Uinque ACTIVE> Grant a single target ally a shield for Xpercent of oh users MAX HP I really like this build path for tanks, it gives them a bit of early game health with a belt and some nice early tank stat with the item 3105 making this a good first build item for these tanks, just like old FotM being more geared to the AD assassins

Another thing with the removal of Ruby Sightstone some of these tanks have been feeling really bad about health, Leona in some games would even rush it before her item 3190 to make it feel just all the better once she had locket, so lets tune locket a bit, to help tank supports just feel better TOTAL COST UNCHANGED NEW>250HP ARMOR 30>>> 25 Magic resist 60>>55 NEW BUILD PATH: from item 3105 +item 1033 >>>> To item 3105 +item 1028 Buy knocking off a bit of the MR, and AR we can afford a lil bit of HP on this item, making it feel good again conq users, and as a rush item against heavy AP builds

CHAMPION CHANGES So this alone kept me up and busy for about 5 hours, i saw the changes that Riot Maple had posted and felt STABBED at the changes to Leona TahmKench Nautilus again im trying to like roast/burn Riot, this shit is really fucking hard, but i also want these champs to be more skill expressive and feel better, so lets start with the lovely lady of sunlight who im much more familiar with GOAL Leona >Give her more skill expression, and fit that ALL in playstlye without shattering her and the game So with our lady of sunlight i looked at all her abilites and passive and again we want to bring leos power up, but not tooo much, and i think the place to start is her base HP, currrently Leona (most tank supports) are going biscuts with either timewarp tonic or cosmic insight, this stems from them needing the runes to survive early game poke, even more so exploited by the fact that they just lost a health pot So how should we help leo? Personally i think the first place to start is just giving her that extra HP however i also just added a lot of HP with a whole new item, and changing locket, so do i really need to give her that HP/Lvl? short answer no, however that does leave the need to address why all the tank support are going resolve+inspiration, being the HP they get there, (notice how this is all just the thoughts for leona) So i looked elsewhere on how to help her, next i thought about her base armor/MR, however giving her 50+base armor seems really high, and could very easily put her in that "WTF a level 1 leona killed me" mode, so i went, back to the drawing board again, pondering ways, and at the end of the day, i just caved, shes going HP in runes to go HP to go for those all ins. So one thought is to give her a baby bump to her base HP, so that she can feel free to travel other rune roads, next up i wanted to tackle her ABYSMAL late game, where (from my sources) she has an under 45% WR, im already pretty wiped at this point, so a personally just agree with the current W changes for her, HOWEVER i think these changes will be more impactful with the items changes i have suggested aswell so i dialed back just a hair to compensate for the new item+changes

LEONA Leona "Feel the Glory of the Sun" 24/7 PRAISE IT! BASE HP>576>>585 W cooldown> 14>>14/13.5/13/12.5/12

Nautilus Nautilus "Back from the Depths" GOAL: Help Naut feel better in the jungle, without damaging his support, or making him oppressive top lane. Again were not trying to shatter these tanks, we want them buffed for sure but not broken, so i think the first place to start with Naut is not actually his shield, but a historically more problematic ability, His Riptide Because of his nature of being able to just drop his E and shove waves, Naut has had his riptide gated by high mana costs, however again balance not OP, and i think the first thing that can be simply done is adding his E todo bonus damage to Monsters that way he doesnt need to use as many to clear the jungle, now while the bonus damage would have to be fine tuned, it would allow him to clear jungle better withou effecting his lanes at all, however this is a quick and simple solution that doesnt really help his skill expression, this is just idea one however

My second idea for the good ole titan of the depths is something more in line with what riots already doing, changing his shield While i dont agree with the current changes to the shield riot maple posted, i do think its a good place to start, making it better early game without making it uncrackable late game, as far as these changes i like them, but at face value they seem like more of a nerf, however we can deal with this, a simple buff to his early game armor and HP that way while he loses a lil bit of the base, its made up for with just a bit more HP and armor. Base HP from 576>600 Base armor from 35>>>38 FEEL FREE TO START TALKING THOU I DO LOVE NEW IDEAS These changes are not perfect, but i did spend 8 hours thinking about them last night, slept then about 3 hours typing this, this shit IS FUCKING HARD, but the goal is to make the game more holistic, and my approach is more simple, i wasnt trying to add 5 blinks and a back flip to leona, and again i dont really know how to help kench, but these are some ideas that i think would be better, yes they are all straight buffs, but were talking champions who NEED help who they want to buff, without breaking. so and its not like the "buffs" i had are game breaking, a lot of them are just helping them deal with the resolve tree nerfs that happened. something they all kindof need. Feel free to like it hate it whatever, but hell at LEAST at the very LEAST im TRYING to give good well thought out feedback, instead of just bitching and crying. <3 GOOD LUCK IN THE RIFT!

4 Comments

EvilUnicornLord8/4/2018, 2:44:06 PM7 votes

Cue all the mega-tryhard assassin and skirmisher mains hating on this post because of their anti-tank bias despite half of them not being able to tell the difference between a tank and a fighter.

Daddy Ants8/4/2018, 3:10:09 PM1 votes

Leona should either be a early game powerhouse or a late game tank.

Not both.