I LOVE BARD

Arabed··4 votes·1,578 views

But he sucks dick. Not gonna sugar coat this.

-Q is okay

-W is doodoo except for the first 10 minutes of the game: HERE'S WHAT YOU DO FOR HIS W. IF THE ENEMY STEPS ON IT INSTEAD OF DISAPPEARING THE ENEMY GETS SLOWED. PLEASE? no? :(... But what about when you land an ult on the enemy YOU CAN PLACE IT UNDER THEM AND THEY CAN BE SLOWED AFTER THEY COME OUT OF THE ULT AND THEN YOU CAN STUN THEM! OMG I FIGURED IT OUT. The longer your w is on the floor the longer the slow lasts! I'm a genius! That way it can't be OP if they step on it as soon as you place it.

-E is THE BEST PART omg so fun magical journey wooo

-HIS UULLLLLTT. CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW 15 COOLDOWN OFF YOUR ULT WHILST ALREADY HAVING 40% CDR IS USEFUL? Here's what Bard's ult needs:

  1. A cool effect when you ult someone it starts spreading and the people around the ult start to turn to gold.
  2. The more people that get hit the longer the zhonyas last.
  3. Stronger effect of zhonya depending on how close to the middle you are. From 2-4 seconds (4 being in the middle).
  4. Instant zhonya if right under you. Run up to the enemy, ult right under you, you get zhonyad, they get zhonyad, and your jungler is happy you didn't fk up your only usefulness, thus, resulting in less toxic community.
  5. A COOL ANIMATION FOR WHEN THEY COME OF ZHONYA. THE GOLD AROUND THEM STARTS TO CRUMBLE.

THOUGHTS?

12 Comments

ReshiKillim1 votes

I think his only needed tweaks are Q speed, Meep scaling, and heal pad AP Scaling. It'd be nice if he had a decent heal scaling at full charged, maybe 0.5 AP

Arabed1 votes

All those could help, I suggested the meep scaling and heal scaling a while ago but I doubt they would do anything to those.

Rew7111 votes

As a PBE level 5 mastery Bard player, I like him this way. He's still better than Zilean. If anyone should get a buff, its this guys E. Can we please make it duel castable and last up to 4 seconds each cast?

Arabed1 votes

I play him at a diamond 5 level which is nothing to brag about, but he is still on the weak side, especially if the game goes on to late game.

Rew7111 votes

But late game is where Bard is his strongest. If you are playing a game, the longer it goes, the stronger Bard's passive gets. I got to where it was 70 minutes and I could hold up to 5 meeps, each dealt over 400 damage each, did long range area damage, 55% slow, and low CD for more (about 4 seconds for each new meep). His heals may not be the strongest and if I could do anything for them, I would raise the bar on how many I could place (starting with 4) and seeing where it goes. His heals are... good, but if I could place more around the map I'd be fine with it. In his release on the PBE, I could place countless heals everywhere and he was still considered weak.

Weasel Kensei1 votes

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But late game is where Bard is his strongest. If you are playing a game, the longer it goes, the stronger Bard's passive gets. I got to where it was 70 minutes and I could hold up to 5 meeps, each dealt over 400 damage each, did long range area damage, 55% slow, and low CD for more (about 4 seconds for each new meep). His heals may not be the strongest and if I could do anything for them, I would raise the bar on how many I could place (starting with 4) and seeing where it goes. His heals are... good, but if I could place more around the map I'd be fine with it. In his release on the PBE, I could place countless heals everywhere and he was still considered weak.

Youre not going to have a 70 minute game most of the time, and the theory that "oh thats just more time to collect more chimes for passive." That is busted wide open if you consider that had you not been off collecting chimes but doing something like help push a lane... the match would have been over sooner. Youre Bard though, so youre off wandering instead of pushing... meaning your team, even if theyre better/more fed, is up against 5 people working the objectives, vs your teams 4 cause youre dicking off trying to stack a passive.

A simple fact Iv noticed, the higher skill in the overall match up, the shorter the games are. A skilled team sees an advantage they push it and try to snowball for the win, solo que semi-competents just sort of kick you in the leg every so often when youre down instead of trying to stomp on your neck.

So grats on pointing that out, that Bard is crap in solo que and needs a 70 minute game vs people who cant push to win in all that time to get a really strong passive...

Bard is good on voice chat, where you can plan things and time stuff, and coordinate. He is trash that cant do anything the same player couldnt have done better with another support in solo que.

"BUT I CARRIED AS BARD SO..." NO, shut up. You could have done the same with Sona or Lulu even better, your opponents were bad, and you were better than them. Its like saying "I defeated 4 muggers with a rusty pipe, so rusty pipes are good." NO, you could have done the same thing with a machete or a gun, and it would have been easier and took less effort.

Rew7111 votes

You're pretty much on point. But I would still rather him have the ability to leave heals at a larger max level. Like at level 1, max is 3; level 2, max is 4; up to level 5 where max is 7.

Hullabaloo9071 votes

Bard is actually pretty strong. When you can pick him into non-engage supports, he can pretty much lay his W down and roam for chimes, warding, and maybe a midlane gank. Your chimes pretty much remove any mana problems you have, compared to other utility supports. Your chimes actually do decent aoe damage and have a good slow on them. Your ult is useful in pretty much any situation.

Arabed1 votes

His mid game is strong. His early game is alright. His late game is horrendous.

A Loyal Support1 votes

make those meeps come more often. like one every 5 seconds would be fucking fantastic.

Ghiefelstein1 votes

Meddler said there are some Bard buffs coming in 5.17:

Caretaker's Shrine (W) Cost :: 100 / 105 / 110 / 115 / 120 >>> 90

Magical Journey (E) Cooldown :: 20 / 19 / 18 / 17 / 16 >>> 18 / 17 / 16 / 15 / 14

link to boards post

GalaxyKingMorde1 votes

Good Night bard players

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