I used to think blitzcrank was somewhat fair

LICENSED HOOKER·Sep 19, 2015·18 votes·2,460 views

Then i played vs him as ADC....

61 Comments

Baby GhoulSep 19, 20158 votes

You're gonna get pulled eventually, and you're gonna eat a whole combo or die. It doesn't matter how well you're preforming either. Even terrible Blitzcrank players land a pull once in a while. It happens. The trick is to punish him each time he misses, but nobody ever does that.

As a support main, I've seen ADCs start to really go downhill fast from there. They lose all confidence and end up getting pulled in more and more. This is where people argue his kit is toxic. No matter what side of Blitz your on, someone is getting disappointed. Either you're the ADC and he's missing all his pulls causing you all to eat a combo, or you're getting pulled in by him and losing all your HP.

LICENSED HOOKERSep 20, 20153 votes

yes, i got level 2 cheesed as Tristana and their Draven Blitzcrank just kept bming :c they then proceeded to get item 3041 item 3141

Asayake 5150glowSep 20, 20151 votes

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You're gonna get pulled eventually, and you're gonna eat a whole combo or die. It doesn't matter how well you're preforming either. Even terrible Blitzcrank players land a pull once in a while. It happens. The trick is to punish him each time he misses, but nobody ever does that.

As a support main, I've seen ADCs start to really go downhill fast from there. They lose all confidence and end up getting pulled in more and more. This is where people argue his kit is toxic. No matter what side of Blitz your on, someone is getting disappointed. Either you're the ADC and he's missing all his pulls causing you all to eat a combo, or you're getting pulled in by him and losing all your HP.

Yeah, I gotta agree here. Getting grabbed and CC chained takes you out of the game for 20-40 seconds, just based on 1 skill. Playing as Blitz, and missing grabs is extremely frustrating, and it also forces you to recall more (mana). The CC chains are not fun. I really think Riot should remove them as a whole...

LICENSED HOOKERSep 21, 20151 votes

good blitz cranks will

e u then q r

or q e r ignite qq..

disregardableSep 19, 20153 votes

You just avoid the Q.

Shroom JunkieSep 19, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Very Toxic Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V09E66Zk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-09-19T23:11:03.894+0000)

You just avoid the Q.

Yeah that's why he has a speed boost and a knockup. ... Never suspect him to just walk up to you until he does. Ballzy fuckers... then they get you caught in their trap and just fist you afterward so you die every time. q.q

LICENSED HOOKERSep 19, 20154 votes

That was me i used to be the guy that would say, JUST void q

UNTIL HE WALKS IN FRONT OF YOU WITH A Draven were the fuck are you gonna go??!@??

LICENSED HOOKERSep 19, 20159 votes

yeah until he walks up to you with e..

disregardableSep 19, 20154 votes

so you just stood there and let him?

LICENSED HOOKERSep 19, 20152 votes

yep i let him touch me.. 100%

DemaciaClownSep 20, 20154 votes

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LICENSED HOOKERSep 21, 20152 votes

lol..

DemaciaClownSep 21, 20152 votes

Show in the doll where he touched you.

LICENSED HOOKERSep 21, 20152 votes

LOL just LOL

DemaciaClownSep 21, 20152 votes

I have strong believes that you are a poro and he touched you with a purple dildo (baron), but we must wait for further investigations from our certainlyT overlord. http://images.techhive.com/images/article/2015/09/poro-intro-100611693-gallery.png

LICENSED HOOKERSep 21, 20152 votes

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL

im weak item 3070

DemaciaClownSep 21, 20152 votes

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7a/7a04bc544e7a33f1c79df1db9c9ef01fab5e7dfe2b9178e643b857b89bb71392.jpg

LICENSED HOOKERSep 21, 20152 votes

yes'um

DemaciaClownSep 21, 20152 votes

http://i.imgur.com/xfrADGb.gif

Shroom JunkieSep 20, 20158 votes

[{quoted}](name=Very Toxic Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V09E66Zk,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2015-09-19T23:15:08.271+0000)

so you just stood there and let him?

He has a speed boost, he may have a full item 3069 , he may use ghost or flash. Many aspects that can get you killed and then let him repeat the process in a minute or two.

BetaDude40Sep 20, 20152 votes

His speed boost wasn't like it was before. It's now a lot harder to use it effectively, and sometimes the payoff isn't even worth it.

Blitzcrank's just one of those champions that can never be exceptionally good with his entire kit. Right now, it's Q > E > Ult = Kill or assist. His Q is already an insanely good and game-changing ability when it lands, Blitz can be decently tanky, he has 100% AP ratios on Q and Ult, and he has a 100% AD scaling knockup that can crit. Really, the only thing not going for him is the fact that he's really only ever played because of his Q's zoning potential since the rest of his kit can be kind of janky.

Blitzcranks that manage to hide those weaknesses are nearly as scary as Shaco mains, though...

Sightless66Sep 20, 20153 votes

If he gets ahead, it's hard not to let him.

LaceUp23Sep 20, 20152 votes

And when any champ gets ahead it's hard to stop them from doing what they are meant to do....kind of the point lol.

Sightless66Sep 20, 20153 votes

There are different degrees. A fed Blitzcrank gets to ignore aiming his Q and can pressure significantly harder than most other supports can when similarly fed. I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, but it something worth noting.

Meep ManSep 23, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Very Toxic Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V09E66Zk,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2015-09-19T23:15:08.271+0000)

so you just stood there and let him?

He is pretty damn fast, I dont think you get that. Not saying he's OP, but he is pretty fast. You can run and still just have him come and attack you.

disregardableSep 23, 20151 votes

It's one thing if you're in the jungle with nothing to stop him, right, then his W will make a difference. But in lane, the dude has to walk all the way up to you through your minions.

IcyPepperSep 19, 201516 votes

You can't avoid it forever :V

You can't dodge 100% of the time, not even pros are expected to.

It only takes that one grab for Blitz to unleash his whole combo, and his team. It's really game-changing, which is why it basically costs half his mana pool early game and has such a long-ass cooldown.

Honestly, the true counterplay to the grab isn't dodging it, but having the right person be grabbed. For certain champions, his grab is just a free gapcloser.

disregardableSep 19, 20152 votes

As the ADC, you should never rely on your teammates to peel for you. You'll just wind up dead and frustrated. You dodge the Q, flash it if necessary.

IcyPepperSep 19, 20154 votes

Well, yeah.

I don't play ADC a lot, but when I don't it frustrates me when the ADC doesn't poke and punish Blitz after a missed hook. Whenever I play ADC, I'm quick to rectify this.

So in other words, alongside dodging it you got to put Blitz in his place afterwards. Especially early game, when his shield isn't strong because his Q took half his mana pool.

Stereo DreamerSep 20, 20152 votes

Olaf : Thank you for making my job easier

SinlaireSep 20, 20152 votes

Amumu fights you for it every time

Hotlin3 FlingSep 21, 20152 votes

Morgana can't tell if it hit or not

CheftoniFTWSep 21, 20151 votes

Rammus OK

SEKAISep 20, 20151 votes

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Honestly, the true counterplay to the grab isn't dodging it, but having the right person be grabbed. For certain champions, his grab is just a free gapcloser.

It is, when this champ depends completely on landing this hook to have the right to think about succeeding.

Otherwise yeah you're right.

ForgottenLuckSep 20, 20152 votes

gonna be honest with you, I still prefer to face a blitz instead of a thresh at least blitz has weaknesses you can exploit easily

Ace Access Sep 20, 20152 votes

yeah, he can do badly for 30mins straight without having a single item but one single grab can still devastate your team

Burnt LightSep 20, 20152 votes

Just pink ward his Q

lB2kGRlc8ySep 20, 20152 votes

You played against him as a champion type he counters, that's not unfair. Blitz has already lost all of his solo play potential as a result of dominating lane compositions he was designed to counter. Countering blitzcrank is as easy as keeping wards up and having a tank support.

Slamurai JackSep 20, 20151 votes

You know you can just attack Blitz when he runs up to try and E you right? You don't have to run away. Blitzcrank feasts on cowards; stand your ground and kick his ass.

AckelopeSep 20, 20152 votes

Unless he's by himself, which is unlikely, that's a really mediocre strategy. Stand your ground, get CC'd, get killed by his teammates :/

Slamurai JackSep 20, 20151 votes

If you run away from even numbered fights whenever blitz runs at you, 1 of you is going to get caught and you are going to lose every single time. Just engage on his stupid ass. A fight where Blitz doesn't pull a priority target is basically a 4v5.

FiveofswordsSep 20, 20151 votes

slamurai is correct, but the support and adc both have to be on the same page. if one runs and the other fights then theres a problem

AckelopeSep 22, 20151 votes

That's what happens to me every time xD

Asayake 5150glowSep 22, 20151 votes

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If you run away from even numbered fights whenever blitz runs at you, 1 of you is going to get caught and you are going to lose every single time. Just engage on his stupid ass. A fight where Blitz doesn't pull a priority target is basically a 4v5.

Still not true. Any long CC does a great deal in a fight, no matter who it hits. If it hits a tank, remember that the tanks main role is to CC as well, so you just stopped him from doing that. Also, remember that the silence is extra effective, stopping the CC, and CC on a whole is pretty powerful.

Slamurai JackSep 22, 20151 votes

If blitz is using all of his CC on tanks, his team is going to lose the teamfight hard if the teams are even. Blitz is a garbage champion if he's not the one making plays; a good initiation on a blitz team is pretty much a free win.

Truly PridefulSep 21, 20151 votes

He'd be fine if the hook didn't have a hitbox the size of china.

LICENSED HOOKERSep 21, 20151 votes

He'd be fine if the hook didn't have a hitbox the size of ~~china~~.

Asia

Asayake 5150glowSep 22, 20151 votes

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Asia

This is not the reason why he is toxic. It's the point that his grab ruins the game for either team, if it lands, or hits. If it lands, turns into 4v5 in favor of Blitz's team. If it misses, turns into 4.5v5 in favor of enemy team. Also CC chains. Get rid off CC chains!

LICENSED HOOKERSep 22, 20151 votes

1 grab ._.

Asayake 5150glowSep 22, 20151 votes