Why, do you need to pay for Rune pages? Mastery Pages are free.
Rune Pages should be free also. This is one of those elements that I question, your forcing people to get rune pages with RP pretty much.
"You only need 2 rune pages!" Uh huh, so AP and AD huh? How am I supposed to play Naut, or anything actually?
Deep Terror Nami36 votesThe Rune system is designed to pressure players into buying RP. That's it.
insaiyanbacca5 voteswell runes can only be bought with ip
Deep Terror Nami4 votesThat is absolutely true, but it's the same currency for champions. A new player probably wants to try out a variety of champions (or like me, wants to own every one regardless of how much I'll use it); but if you don't have decent Runes you're going to be at a disadvantage that others probably don't have, so you either skimp on Runes or skip out on champions you want, so you're pressured to pay RP (for boosts or champs) so you don't have to choose.
DíckWallace8 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UtHvPXHh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-18T04:13:33.228+0000)
The Rune system is designed to pressure players into buying RP. That's it.
I have never used RP for rune pages. I've only ever used RP for skins. I have 7 full rune pages that were all bough with IP. I don't see how it pressures players to buy RP when you use IP to buy them...
IcyPepper20 votesEh.
Not everyone has enough time to grind out enough IP for runes, champions, and rune pages. The IP costs are insane, and the IP gains are low. It takes awhile. Not everyone has the time to, unfortunately.
YumaS2Astral4 votesEh.
Not everyone has enough time to grind out enough IP for runes, champions, and rune pages. The IP costs are insane, and the IP gains are low. It takes awhile. Not everyone has the time to, unfortunately.
I took two years to buy almost every champion in the game and have fifteen different rune pages. And that's considering that I have no job and I am usually only playing League everyday... not that I don't plan to do something on my life. But I had all that time.
OyddAWqJ5r1 votesI'll call BS on that. I've been playing for 5 years and am still missing ~20 champions and have 20 rune pages but 7 were bought with RP.
There's no way you acquired more than me in 2 years than I did in 5 with purely IP.
...Yuma S2... lol. Glad I'm out of that hellhole.
Sozan57 votes[{quoted}](name=Sleeper Cell,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UtHvPXHh,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-18T12:39:46.648+0000)
I'll call BS on that. I've been playing for 5 years and am still missing ~20 champions and have 20 rune pages but 7 were bought with RP.
There's no way you acquired more than me in 2 years than I did in 5 with purely IP.
...Yuma S2... lol. Glad I'm out of that hellhole.
Erm... I am playing for 2 and half year and I have 20 rune pages, 107 champions and over 18 000 IP, so that's really not that special. I also bought nothing but skins with RP.
Rew7111 votesI wish I had the amount of time to play League as you have. I've been trying for 3 years now and still have 47 left (my total is 79) no runes or bonus rune pages and 4x less the amount you have. During the IP bonus day and week, I used the IP bonuses to get my last 3 3150 IP champs that were left and the left over to finally get Irelia. Now, I've been grinding the past week to get 6300 IP so I can start getting the rest of the supports (Tahm, Braum, Nami, but I'm waiting for Lulu to go to 4800 because thats 1500 I don't need to save up).
OyddAWqJ5r1 votesAnd I thought I had no life, only to find that there are people like you who are 3x as lifeless.
RIP Tahm Kench1 votesWe need a new law: Any argument about progression models will eventually devolve into one person saying the other has no life if you progress by playing the game.
I've been playing since Vayne release and I also have every champion unlocked, 9 rune pages, and have changed my name with IP several times.
Aheadatime1 votesYeah this sounds ridiculous. I've been playing since season 2 and not only am I still missing alot of champs, but I only have like 13 rune pages or something, and the ones that I do have I got with RP. Two years for every champion, 15 rune pages, and the runes to fill those pages strictly through iP means you must game wayyyyyyyyy too much man.
EvilRabbitt1 votesI'd agree on insane IP costs....then I look at Blizzard's Heroes of the Storm Gold costs... and I just go "wow, it's possible to make it worse".
IcyPepper1 votesOne of many reasons I don't play that game.
Lauricella31 votes[deleted]
Prozzak1 votesWhat? He used IP to get them, he didn't get them for free.
Hello I am Bird2 votesDidn't read the comment before that (Because it was deleted) but isn't IP technically free?
Learnding1 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UtHvPXHh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-18T04:13:33.228+0000)
The Rune system is designed to pressure players into buying RP. That's it.
coughfreemiumcough
DomainSpecific6 votes"This is one of those elements that I question, your forcing people to get rune pages with RP pretty much."
You know, it's like if Riot wanted us to spend money/time to play their game...
Zenthon Prime1 votesYeah, honestly I'm fine with having to buy rune pages.
Now, the runes themselves should be free, or at least half of their current cost (for T3 runes anyway).
ChaoticPinecone5 votesRune pages cost in-game currency. Runes cost in-game currency. Nobodys 'forcing' you into buying rune pages with RP anymore than they are 'forcing' you to buy champions with RP.
And why do you have to sound so ungrateful? They didnt have to make mastery pages free, but they did. This is why people cant have nice things - they get greedy and entitled in thinking they should get everything for free.
And honestly, beyond a couple pages its just a IP dump. I have 15 pages but in the past 15 games (Hecarim, Pantheon, AP Shaco, Akali, Singed, Rengar, Malz, Malphite, Riven, Kogmaw, Yasuo, Nocturne, Ekko, Thresh, Fizz) ive used 4, including a Singed page i use only for Singed. I use 3 runepages for like 115 of the champions in the game.
Flagrock5 votesSimple answer: they need to make money to exist as a community. Without you paying, they don't get any money and the company shuts down, no more League of Legends. So, if you really do like to play this game you might think about spending a tiny bit of money on it so it can keep existing.
More complex answer: If you watch Phreak's twitch channel, he did a very good job on explaining runes and masteries and how to optimize them. He uses "18" of his 20 rune pages, but in all reality he even states that you really only need 2, maybe 3 max to be competitive. If you look at a lot of the pro player's smurf accounts they don't have 20 rune pages, they have 2 or 3. You don't NEED specialized rune pages. Personally, I only use 4 of my 11 rune pages consistently and some of the differences between my rune pages are only scaling/flat stats for matchups that are difficult. People think you "need" a full 20 rune pages, and I did too, until you really think about what you need in a rune page and a basic AD page (AS, AD, armor, MR/lvl) a basic AP page (AP, magic pen, armor, MR) and that will cover almost every single champion in the game. The third if you really want to be specific would be a "full" tank page of (armor, armor, hp/lvl, MR), but almost every tank wants AD to either help csing or jungle clear so the first 2 pages clears almost every champion in the game. There are optimizations you can run for certain champions like switching the AS quints for lifesteal on a Nasus or getting armor pen for assassins and running flat AD instead of AS, but still you really don't "NEED" lots of rune pages, it's really not that bad. Heck, I only have 10 mastery pages and that covers almost every champion I run too. Basic pages work for almost every champion with very few changes for optimization.
tl;dr: You don't need more than 3 rune pages, just learn how to make blanket pages and you'll be fine. The only time you "need" more rune pages is for really really tiny modifications that really won't make a game-changing difference
Zenthon Prime1 votesYou need 3-4 pages to work well with every champ: -AD -AP -AS (usually for jungle) -Tank (highly optional, AP usually works)
Boom done. Have fun not spending anything on Runes until upper Diamond.
Silents4294 votesYou start with 2 and you really don't need anymore then that. You need multiple mastery pages however.
And despite what people believe or want Riot does need to force players to want to spend money or they don't make a profit for this free to play game.
Deep Terror Nami2 votesYou most certainly do need more than 2 if you intend on playing Ranked with any decent intention of putting forth effort. If you're only doing Team Builder and always guaranteed exactly what you intend to play, sure you can just have the 2 and change out your Runes before you go in. You might even do Ranked and get exactly what you want most of the time, but it's not always like that and not everyone makes a point to just play one thing. If you could change out your Runes in champ select this might not be a problem, but you can't, so it is.
Silents4295 votesAs far as I am aware people play roles they are best at for ranked, which is normally around 2 roles, if you want to go super serious for ranked then feel free to buy more, but you don't need more.
TheRakkun1 votesYou start with 2 and you really don't need anymore then that. You need multiple mastery pages however.
And despite what people believe or want Riot does need to force players to want to spend money or they don't make a profit for this free to play game.
Fighter page ADC Page APC Page Support page Tank page
Silents4294 votesAD AP
TheRakkun1 votesAD AP
Oh yeah because I'm really going to use my AP Caster page for fucking Nautilus aren't I?
Silents4294 votesCalm your tits, My AP page is as following
Magic Pen
+7.83
Armor
+9
Magic Resist
+12.06
Ability Power
+14.85
and it works for Nautilus.
The point is we don't need more then 2, obviously more is optimal (I have 7) but I went the longest time even during ranked with 2 without problems, it requires the occasional quick change in runes between games if I need to adjust something, but overall it always works.
TheRakkun1 votesCalm your tits, My AP page is as following
Magic Pen +7.83 Armor +9 Magic Resist +12.06 Ability Power +14.85and it works for Nautilus.
The point is we don't need more then 2, obviously more is optimal (I have 7) but I went the longest time even during ranked with 2 without problems, it requires the occasional quick change in runes between games if I need to adjust something, but overall it always works.
Uhm no generally an AP Page is
Mpen reds Scaling health Yellows Scaling AP Blues AP Quints
Nautilus and any other support generally goes
Armor reds Health yellows MR Blues Armor reds
Silents4293 votesSorry no again.
Yellow health scaling mid is not common, you can look this information up yourself on common runes and masteries, the AP page I just sent you is the most commonly used setup for every AP champion. (champion.gg)
I am sad we have gotten to the day where everyone acts like Nautilus only top lanes or supports, I was under the impression you meant jungle (works for top too)
Support tank page is commonly.
9x Greater Mark of Armor +0.91 armor 9x Greater Glyph of Magic Resist +1.34 magic resist 9x Greater Seal of Health +8 health 3x Greater Quintessence of Armor +4.26 armor
In all honesty when starting out with ranked, because the only people generally struggling to get any more then 2 rune pages, you really should only be focusing on 2 roles to master, but have a basic understanding of all 5.
This has been the way since as long as I can remember, there is no reason to change other then people wanting more sooner.
Slamurai Jack4 votesSo they can make money is one of the big reasons and that it totally within their right as a company.
However, I also believe it serves to lessen the learning curve to the game. Can you imagine people making 20 rune pages when they only know how to play like 5 champions? Rune pages are all about specialization, and specialization requires a significant amount of knowledge and experience you can only get by playing the game. It's the same reason new players don't get 30 mastery points when they start out; they have enough on their plate without having to worry about masteries or runes.
Flawless Fetus4 votesIt's easy to be mad that rune pages aren't free, or that the goal behind that is "force" players into buying RP, but keep in mind that Rito needs to generate revenue somehow. Unlike most "f2p" games that I've touched, it's possible to not drop any cash on league and still be able to play on par with those that do. If you compare Rito's f2p model to that of other companies, you'll be thanking them instead of complaining.
Llanite3 votesBecause Riot wants your money?
It's freemium model, they offer you the very basic stuff that's barely adequate. If you don't pay real money, expect to grind a lot.
Rootworth2 votesYou can get rune pages for IP. I think it's something to have a goal for and keep playing for.
Digielf2 votesYou are complaining about a F2P game ahaaahaha
Meªt2 votesI suppose they are a way for players who have been in the game a long time and accumulated loads of IP to spend it. Eventually there are no ways to spend IP after getting every champion, and the runes for your two complemenary pages.
however, that doesn't mean it isn't overpriced
6300 or 590RP wow.
18x6300 = 113400 IP.
Not to mention the additional runes one might want to add for specific rune pages IE: MS for Hecarim or Hybrid Pen for Elise or something
TotalJerk2 votesi don't buy pages with IP unless they are doing the 2 for 1 deal. Still, if you think that is overpriced, you should see Warframe.
Demonsolder212 votesBecause Riot is a business not some donation.
SociopathFriend2 votesMastery points are given to you for free as well, so it makes sense the pages would be free. You buy runes with IP, so you can buy rune pages with IP.
Makes sense to me.
Malicious Fury1 votesYou don't need RP to buy them. And...Why is this post getting so many upvotes? I have plenty of rune pages, all the champions I want, and almost 150k IP left over. I don't see anything being too expensive or not worth the time to collect IP for...
Elijah Prophet1 votesYou're now the CEO of a 70 million player wide game. You make the game FREE. Amazing! Unheard of even! You have costs to keep up the insane servers and memory needed for all those players. Expected. All the players whine about the little costs they need to have a slight advantage in the FREE game you gave them? Um..........
Zorsus1 votesGuess the costumers always right then! you make all the rune pages and skin free in the game and refund ALL the money to anyone who ever bought any RP so they dont call you greedy! but you are forced to close the game less than a week later because you cant pay for the servers or a any other shit!
Kip Killagin1 votesBecause Rito wants to waste your time, and steal your money.
voidterror11 votesAP 
, duh
jmaishere1 votesI like how everyone who's mentioned that they bought pages with IP has been downvoted like mad. Just because you disagree with them, doesn't mean they hadn't made a reasonable post.
FooDang1 votesWelcome the world of video games...where you have to grind to get stuff...
Kids nowadays need everything spoon fed to them...smh
MugfaceTGE1 votesI disagree with this, I already bought mine so you better buy yours.GG