Can we get Grades and Keystone in our matchhistory?
Please? Grades especially.
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I'd like to see LP gain/loss for ranked games in our match history. Can't count how many times I've meant to look at that but forgot and clicked out, forever denied.
This would be pretty dumb because grades only matter if they take into account your competition and I don't think they do. You can get an S every game in Bronze with amazing CS and KDA but that doesn't mean you play better than a guy getting a B in a Diamond game.
This is a terrible idea that will just increase the number of people KDA farming already won games, trying to kill-steal instead of focusing the best target or playing overly safe on initiators to avoid dying, There are so many things which cannot be accurately quantified into the grade but can inflate the grade by counterproductive behaviors. Having grades in history just enforces one way to play the game and tends to encourage toxic behaviors which work against the team or make the enemy team miserable. Better results will lead to a higher rank and you don't need artificial grades for anything more than entertainment.
People disagree on the quality of someone's play even in LCS play with a team of analysts so the last thing we need is a bot trying to determine that in a generic way with little insight into the individual game's state, winning conditions, plans etc. I'd rather not have my Vayne farm side-waves even more while a critical objective is up or run away in a teamfight without autoing almost at all to preserve some good KDA.
It should be optional and I still don't think it would be healthy for the game.
Victory or defeat are the only grades that count. I've had games that were S graded that we lost because of me or something I did. Ive also made plays that won the game on a B grade game. Grades are a funny little metric that show you at a glance how your kda, cs, etc compare to others, but they are meaningless.
Several others have posted that grades in the game encourage things that are actually counter productive to winning. Whether that be farming a side lane while your team is getting pushed on, or running away to preserve a kda when you might have turned a fight, these kinds of things might make you look good on your grades, but if you lose the game, what good is it?
Honestly I wish there was a good way to take out kda from the score tab. But it's too useful for knowing who to focus on the enemy team or who on your team to get snowballing.
I think they should show keystones though. That would be useful when looking back on how you did with various mastery setups.
Absolutely awful idea that will bring the worst out in people. It also just has no merit since if you play enough, your games will speak for themselves. You don't need a good grade as an excuse and most of the time it's fairly meaningless anyway. I can't properly emphasize how stupid and bad for the game such an idea is.
People would just play more "mini-games" to inflate their grades rather than doing what's best in the game and for their team. Especially after they lose, they'll just rub it in people's face. I can see it now: "S again, sigh. Such awful teams."
If you show it in history, it should still be private. I don't need more stress from a grading system in an already stressful game (especially with this DQ BS). I also don't think it's actually that meaningful. I've saved the game by catching a wave and dying for it. I'm sure the grading system just thought I was feeding.
I wouldn't be surprised to see these coming in the new client that is being worked on in the Alpha client.
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The only way this would make sense is if we had 3+ highly ranked impartial humans grade every game while fully understanding every nuance. Grades are not there and should not be used as anything more than a gimmick for laughs.
I already see people not try to win when far ahead because they want to pad their precious KDA and this would only encourage that. It offers nothing useful beyond just offering an excuse to massage someone's ego or show off to friends. It's not really even about how skillful you were that game or whether you made the right decisions. Winning will show that way more than any grade can.
I don't see any benefit to this but I see many potential downsides.
We can see Keystone already. Go to the match in-browser and look at player builds. It provides full information on every player's item build, ability choice, runes, and masteries. On the grades, I would like to see that, mostly I so I can see my builds where I get the highest grades(which seem like my best games) (because I do try to build to best fit my current situation.) Plus, I want to know when I got that S+ as Ziggs because I somehow got one and don't remember it.
Only if they fix the grade, i had a game with zillean support that i fed around 4 kills to enemy adc, but when my team groupped up we were able to win teamfights. I got an S- and my midlaner, the real carry of our team, didnt.
I just read "Can we get Graves and Keystone in our matchhistory?"
Fail. I guess I've been getting annoyed by Graves more than usual recently.
There could be possible problems where people just go for higher grades so it looks good to others, so possibly make it so that nobody else can see those details
I forget to see how many points and what grades I've gotten but I click the match and remember it doesn't show up, same goes for ranked lp