Can we just do away with promos?

Poison Bolts··69 votes·2,129 views

i am on a smurf just to make a point about how stupid these games are, i hold almost 100% winrate outside of promos, and the second i hit them i instantly lose both ina row, then instantly get back in, lose 2 more, then get pushed through for having 2 free wins

this is fucking insane, and so unhealthy for the game it's unbelievable

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RankOneUganda22 votes

I swear. I had 100% winrate in about 35 games in platinum 3. it took 11 promos to get to platinum 2. I won every single game. the mmr fucks you in promos. I literally had Silver players in fucking platinum 2. they were not smurfs.

Mr New Booty20 votes

if you go to promos you get insta-fucked, built in game lol, its literally funny, on any account as soon as you hit promo you get the trolls and weirdos

RankOneUganda1 votes

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if you go to promos you get insta-fucked, built in game lol, its literally funny, on any account as soon as you hit promo you get the trolls and weirdos

I lost 0 games in plat 3 the entire week. not counting promos which i lost every single time. 2:0 and not a single game went past 29 minutes

DIILmach001 votes

Thats what happened to me on my main account. I won 13 games in a row, went from plat 3 to plat 1. Boom lost 12 in a row because Riot is giving me Gold 1-plat 5 team mates with plat 5 mmr against players that have plat 1- diamond 5 mmr. Its insanely stupid, almost all the games are lost due to that one person not knowing what to do.

GayFluffyUnicorn3 votes

dropped out of d3. Won every game into promos. 7 promos lost. Not a single promo game won. Every. single. game i had inters, boosted people idk what it was. The match quality. Holy. Then dropped to D5 0 lp thanks to tilting and inting. 8 games win streak back into promos and the fun begins again. I wish promos inbetween divisions would just get removed. From one tier to another is okay to show you actually belong higher but it simply doesn't matter if you are now G5 or G4 or D5 or D4.

Rengar Top Lane1 votes

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dropped out of d3. Won every game into promos. 7 promos lost. Not a single promo game won. Every. single. game i had inters, boosted people idk what it was. The match quality. Holy. Then dropped to D5 0 lp thanks to tilting and inting. 8 games win streak back into promos and the fun begins again. I wish promos inbetween divisions would just get removed. From one tier to another is okay to show you actually belong higher but it simply doesn't matter if you are now G5 or G4 or D5 or D4.

Just climbed to p1 and I've started to see d5 players. I believe they should keep promos in between divisions to keep players like that locked in a cage. Especially the amount of boosted ones I've seen the past 2 days.

I GANK LANES7 votes

i think we should have promos when getting promoted actual divisions: e.g. bronze-silver, master-challenger, etc

Nea1043 votes

Totally not rigged. :D

invisiblecat13 votes

This is literally bringing back the ELO system... Which is something Riot said will not be coming back why did people upvote this

Poison Bolts1 votes

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This is literally bringing back the ELO system... Which is something Riot said will not be coming back why did people upvote this

how can you say literally, when it wouldn't even loosely be the elo system? It would actually just be not having a bunch of terrible ass games that are made to fuck you over

invisiblecat11 votes

You are saying that there are no promos, and reaching a certain amount of LP would get you to a certain rank This is EXACTLY what the old elo system did, but this was changed, that way if you reached Gold V and then lost the next game you wouldn't be automatically demoted to Silver I again

Poison Bolts2 votes

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http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=poisonbolts 50%

i'm sure once i have 300 games i'll be able to match your incredible 56% in platinum 1 -_- LOL

bie da wo wo pa1 votes

oh no man i'm sure you're smurfing

Poison Bolts2 votes

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oh no man i'm sure you're smurfing

it doesn't really matter what the w/r is on a lower account, i use this account to play with friends too, i regularly rank it up and derank it

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

I think that's the problem as well. On my smurf i went to plat 3 with 70% winrate from silver 4. The first promos were actually hard and cancer but after we wins and jumping divisions i got the best teammates you can imagine. I'm fairly certain the matchmaking gives you shit promos when you are close to your mmr or around 50% WR. Because "if you deserve to rank up you carry these idiots".

Synnx72 votes

This is the reason for them to exist. To let you play the shit ouf this crap game, to grind it. Thats the purpose of promos, otherwise everyone would've been gold/plat +. The game's difficulty dropped roughly by 60% + , since i started this game, back in S2

ViciousSummoner2 votes

When you hit promos you get into a weird pool of players. These players usually have little game knowledge and just happen to have higher MMR. The best thing to do is to lose 2-3 games in your current rank. If you do this your MMR will drop and when you enter promos you'll get normal players.

Poison Bolts2 votes

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When you hit promos you get into a weird pool of players. These players usually have little game knowledge and just happen to have higher MMR. The best thing to do is to lose 2-3 games in your current rank. If you do this your MMR will drop and when you enter promos you'll get normal players.

ive just been dodging one and if i almost guaranteed lose the 2nd one so i only lose like 18 LP, the next game puts me right back in and then i get a free win

it's honestly not worth the headache, the games are so obviously rigged i can't even stand it anymore, it's not even worth playing, it's sad that the strategic move in ranked is to not even play promos and to wait to get pushed through with the free win

ViciousSummoner1 votes

I kind of want to say it's more on how the MMR/ELO works. I feel as though it'd be better if all new players started at 0 MMR/ELO as opposed to 1200. This is pretty close to Gold. I personally feel that the free MMR/ELO is really what makes certain players stick around. These players tend to go about 50/50 always getting a lucky game here and there. A few of these players might coast off win streaks and get pushed higher and then end up getting stuck when better players leave. These bad players bring average players down, but average players and good players also bring them up too. It just causes a never ending cycle because the starting point is always in this area where they get pushed up and down continuously. This is also why the seasonal resets fail in what they intend to do.

Sorry for going a bit off track, but it just all really boils down to this.

The Deckowner2 votes

These players usually have little game knowledge and just happen to have higher MMR.

Sounds like boosted animal

SirTeemoMushroom2 votes

first of all... you are SMURFING... you are playing with people who are below your rank/potential skills.. so stop crying .

Poison Bolts1 votes

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first of all... you are SMURFING... you are playing with people who are below your rank/potential skills.. so stop crying .

so you would say that keeping people above the rank they're in longer to ruin more games is better?

RizHippoKhan1 votes

i know right? i got into promos twice and i know i might sound like those bronze elo hell-ers but well...... either i fuck up or my team fucks up ;-; and boom im stuck once more!

jama6551 votes

Wait.... if you lose promos enough u get TWO free wins?? I can make it to plat after allll!!!!!

Poison Bolts1 votes

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Wait.... if you lose promos enough u get TWO free wins?? I can make it to plat after allll!!!!!

i'm pretty sure, i've actually lose promos a few times and then when i hit 100 LP it just said i was promoted. and this was on one of my accounts going from s1 to G5

Breaku1 votes

nope

Nami Want Salami1 votes

gets in promos

Yasuo "Me Mid KR Diamond"

Riven "Me top or troll"

Jimmy Rustles1 votes

Meanwhile trash players like me somehow got out of bronze

The ranked system is weird

Awano1 votes

KID NOWADAYS ARE FUCKING TRASH IK IVE BEEN TOXIC OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS BUT HOLY SHIT I GET A FKING MORON WITH OVER 10 DEATHS BEFORE 20 MIN EVERY FUCKING GAME. SHIT IS GETTING RIDICULOUS PLS FIX MMR OR SOME SHIT SOME OF THESE KIDS ARE AUTISTIC AS FUCK AND THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY TO WIN WITH THEM

pixelvoxel1 votes

read in tyler1 voice

koshkyra1 votes

Instead of removing promos, lets add a demotion thing instead of just dropping an elo when you hit 0 lp

Like the same thing as promos, only winning would determine whether or not you stay in your elo or get kicked out

Fear the Kayn1 votes

I really think Overwatch ranked has a far superior system that League's system.

DemainaNyx1 votes

Literally my last promo games to Gold were 1 free win, 2 losses due to top laner afking, 1 win where my team stomped, and 1 loss where my top laner afked. Got back up, 2 free wins, and got promoted the next game. So stupid that I was denied promoting due to my top laners being sore losers.

Fütanari1 votes

You are the problem with this game. You deserve to lose.

Poison Bolts1 votes

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You are the problem with this game. You deserve to lose.

not even sure this deserves a response

what do you even know about this game being carried to gold 5? you are aware it is painfully obvious someone got you there when you have less than 50 W/R right?

Fütanari1 votes

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not even sure this deserves a response

what do you even know about this game being carried to gold 5? you are aware it is painfully obvious someone got you there when you have less than 50 W/R right?

carried? lol. I had a positive win rate but I've been losing lately so it went down. You can check all my ranked games to see if I duo with anyone. I play veigar only.

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