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Remove CS counter: use Total Gold

masterdragon481·3/26/2017, 11:28:33 PM·5 votes·1,146 views

As the title states, I would like to propose removing the CS counter and putting total gold per champion in its place. CS is an obscure and unclear measure of a champions relative power level, and it makes it much harder in game to compare yourself to your opponent.

For example, if a jungler has 2 more kills than his opposing jungler, but is 20 cs down, who is ahead? Answering this question will influence whether one jungler can pressure an objective, invade, etc. And this question is VERY hard to answer. How many minions were lane minions? What camps did each jungle take? Was one of the kills first blood?

Another point: how much extra gold are champions like Twisted Fate, Gangplank, and Draven getting? How far ahead are they? Because I know that if I go even in CS against a Twisted Fate (and there are no kills), I'm actually going to be behind quite a bit of gold. How is that going to affect my lane? Would I make different itemization choices if I knew how far ahead he was?

CS is very approximate; a kill is ~ 20cs. But thats lane cs, and I'm not even sure that factors in a cannon minion. Is a kill 20 Gromps? No. Definitely not.

CS offers no useful information that gold total wouldn't, instead it hides information that could potentially be very valuable. As always, I'm curious what others thing.

11 Comments

qqpp3/26/2017, 11:32:09 PM1 votes

What about both? When I CS I would definitely like to know how efficiently I am csing compared to the enemy. It would also be nice to know how much gold you both have. This would be really helpful though

The Sword Saint3/27/2017, 4:00:46 AM1 votes

Gold earned is not what determines strengthfrom items... items are. Any time the scoreboard would update to show accurate cs it would also show what items they have which is far more useful for many reasons, not the least of which is that gold that is not yet spent or even that has bern spent inefficiently or on non combat stats has a great impact on actual power level.

Even something silly like consumables shows how innacurate gold earned is in terms of power level. If two junglers have earned the same amount of gold so far but one has invested only in combat stats and the other has spent almost 1k on potions and wards and elixers it should be obvious that one jungler is actually behind in item strength but your gold earned stat doesnt account for this.

BlueBilberry4/23/2017, 3:41:39 PM1 votes

Bumped it up. If the quality of play at lower levels is going to increase, then efforts need to be made to direct their attentions to where it is relevant.

Now, the only place where I differ is that it doesn't have to be an outright removal of the cs counter - but a running team gold total might be helpful in reminding players of the basic objective: the turret.