Rammus with Thornmail?

ScriptBrand··1 votes·1,039 views

I main adc and I cannot tell you how frustrating it is that someone thought it would be a good idea to make a champion that can literally stack defensive items in such a way that if an adc attacks them they lose health faster than rammus. Only one of rammus's rebound effects should be active at a time. Having both thornmail and defensive curl makes him completely free to trample any ad champions.

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AtheosisX3 votes

Rammus is fine. Buy a Bloodthirster. Why are ADC players so whiny?

Erockandroll1 votes

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Rammus is fine. Buy a Bloodthirster. Why are ADC players so whiny?

Cause AD's Forget that they Elected themselves to play the glass cannon. "Oh I'm dead if he catches me." "Gnar has Too much CC." "Assassins kill me in too shots."

no sh*t. you picked the most Finicky role in the game out of some miss place idea that you would be able to carry the team.

Cale0171 votes

That's sort of the point of Rammus. And honestly, anyone who builds super tanky can make an ADC do more damage to themselves than they are to them. Once you hit ~300 armor, Thornmail is actually reflecting more damage than the user is taking as the damage it reflects is done based on the damage received before resistances reduce the amount that actually goes through.

He's supposed to trample AD champions. That's what he does. It's why he has such a powerful AD steroid on his passive, and why his ult deals such an intense amount of damage if given enough time to affect the same target. If you're a lone AD carry against a speeding Rammus, you'd best Flash over a wall because if he catches you, you aren't getting away.

ScriptBrand1 votes

i disagree, there should be counter-play to every mechanic. for someone to sit there and literally do nothing and deal more damage than an adc is not good game design, and youre ludicrous if you think it is

Erockandroll3 votes

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i disagree, there should be counter-play to every mechanic. for someone to sit there and literally do nothing and deal more damage than an adc is not good game design, and youre ludicrous if you think it is

First of all, Don't focus the Tank. Second of all, keep your distance from Rammus and don't let them taunt you.

Their is a Problem with Creating counter measures to each mechanic. Take say CC in General. It's Primary counter is Tendency. Yet this creates an Interesting duality of Have tendency and have nots. If CC was Strong in General, ADC's would still complain because they would never Build Tendency. While Tanks who would have built Tendency Anyways, would Probably not be impeded enough if Said CC got nerfed. This might explain why Riot has been focusing on Knockups, because those have no counters. Making a little easier to balance in general.

Cale0171 votes

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Step one: Do not focus the Rammus.

Step two: Do not give Rammus an easy path to get to you. His powerball may make him able to catch anyone in a flat out race, but a single minion gets in the way and it ends rather quickly.

Complaining about a Rammus who's making you feel more hurt than you're making him feel is like complaining about an ADC being able to crit 70+% of the time. It's what they do. It's the role they're designed to play. The counter play? Buying more health or more armor, but that isn't guaranteed to give you victory.

Wanna beat a Rammus? Buy a Last Whisper and as much lifesteal as you can, and hope you can sustain through the damage his shield is doing to you. Only that doesn't take into account that he's going to be hitting you for roundabout 200ish AD full build with his W active, or that his ult is melting your life bar away.

Some champs just happen to be potent duelists. The counterplay is not letting yourself be caught out alone which, if you're the ADC, you probably shouldn't be during the late game.

Cale0171 votes

And it's not as though he's doing nothing for this. Rammus has to have been active enough in the rest of the game to get to the point where his W combined with Thornmail is wreaking havoc on you. If he's behind, doesn't have the itemization he needs, or prioritized other skills then he's much less effective. It isn't "free" damage. He damn well worked for it, especially with the jungle being as cruel as it is currently.

SiNful Jungler1 votes

As a rammus main i will give you some advice 1.he relay on speed ball to get to you which is easly countered by by hidding behind a minion wave so it will get cancel 2.The other way for him is to flash tunt you which you need to know if he have flash and respect that 3.an easy way to shut his damage down is to buy a silver slash it will destroy him and make him usless for 2 reason ...first the active will remove the taunt making his only cc usless and putting him is a spot that will get destroy ...the mr it provid will shut his damage as you know all his damage are magic as will as thornmail damage is magic as well. this item alone make him usless that why he is not played more 4. In team fight you need to stand behind the front line they will make his ingage usless 5. Dont be that adc thinking he can kill every one an urgont adc is a dead one and rammus was build to make any ad champ feel some pain 6.almost all adc have escape dont be greedy with it it rammus is getting clise use it

Those just a few points they are many ways to make him useless dont whine about every champ that stomp you...i am adc i must 2 shot eveyone or plz nerf champ x or y

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