Not even a point in playing the game if your against ahri.

Ranmaru·Aug 17, 2018·4 votes·1,518 views

She can just hit charm and deal 2/3 of your health and charm you long enough before you can even trade back while shoving the wave, Then you have to recall and ahri has a level advantage and then she can just onto you with e and then burst combo you with ignite and ult out before the jungler can kill you, Absoulute cancer of a champion. Ahri didn't need buffed at all im sorry but a 49% winrate with a 15% pickrate is not bad. I don't understand. With her buffed charm duration she can trade with you before you can even trade back, and if your jungler is around its actually just a free kill.

Btw "Ahri is gonna be gutted with domination nerfs!" meanwhile 53.14% with a 11.82% winrate still dominating midlane.

65 Comments

ToppienAug 17, 201811 votes

you know you can dodge...right?

[sg-ahri-2]

to the sides? no? ok then

ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20181 votes

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you know you can dodge...right?

[sg-ahri-2]

to the sides? no? ok then

Lol dodge a point blank E the second she gets 6

ToppienAug 17, 20185 votes

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Lol dodge a point blank E the second she gets 6

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How am I meant to dodge a fast charm or how Am i meant to dodge her when she goes in my face and spams. But she wont get punished because of charm duration

Also no need to nerf quinn! you can just dodge her q not a point in nerfing electrocute, cant you just side step the abilitys....right? no point in nerfing anything because you can just dodge!

summoner 4 behind her, literally all of her skillshots wasted

also cmon you know when shes ulting shes going to e you first no matter what, you cant predict that at least?

DrCyanideAug 17, 20181 votes

Remind me what the cooldown is on Flash.

RanmaruAug 17, 20181 votes

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behind her, literally all of her skillshots wasted

also cmon you know when shes ulting shes going to e you first no matter what, you can predict that at least?

omg yes! Flash! My trusty 3 minute cooldown summoner for ahris 70 second ultimate!!!

wildfox99Aug 17, 20181 votes

110 sec actually,and she's more likely t die after you flash her combo

then if you get caught everytime her ult is up it's all your fault dude

ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20181 votes

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behind her, literally all of her skillshots wasted

also cmon you know when shes ulting shes going to e you first no matter what, you cant predict that at least?

300 seconds for 110, 300 seconds for 9.... you arent winning if you use your only mobility to dodge one spell rotation you are losing

wildfox99Aug 17, 20185 votes

don't run toward the tower but instead be imprevedibile,or just sidestep when you see her ulting

stay behind minions and she can't pointblank (she would hit a minion anyway)

if you see that she's going for a point blank E throw yout abilities while she's dashing toward you,especially if you have an hard CC you will stop her combo and getting a free hit for yours

don't let her get that near,her ult range is 300,most of the mages AA range is 550 for a comparison,if you let her getting that near without punishing her you deserve to die

flash/use any mobility spell for dodging the charm

~~also you play yasuo,smash your W button and you stop her combo ~~ edit : ok nvm about yasuo but as you can see you can play around it even if your champion have literally 0 tools for countering her

RanmaruAug 17, 20181 votes

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don't run toward the tower but instead be imprevedibile,or just sidestep when yo usee her ulting

stay behind minions and she can't pointblank (she would hit a minion anyway)

if you see that she's going for a point blank E throw yout abilities while she's dashing toward you,especially if you have an hard CC you will stop her combo and getting a free hit for yours

don't let her get that near,her ult range is 300,most of the mages AA range is 550 for a comparison,if you let her getting that near without punishing her you deserve to die

flash/use any mobility spell for dodging the charm

also you play yasuo,smash your W button and you stop her combo

Looked at Imgodlyaytyasos profile I see no yasuo am I missing out on something

also try to dodge her charm when she throws it and sidestep it? SHES IN MY FACE HER CHARM DOESNT ONLY GO FORWARD

wildfox99Aug 17, 20181 votes

also try to dodge her charm when she throws it and sidestep it? SHES IN MY FACE HER CHARM DOESNT ONLY GO FORWARD

get ready when you see that she's coming (again she have to be really near for getting in a melee range),her charm hitbox ir really thin (50 units if i'm not wrong) so if for example you are walking on the right and change on the left as soon as her dash ends and she use it you'll dodge it even in a melee range,if she's holding it for aiming better use your abilities (they will also be point blank) before she charm you

or just use your abilities point blank in her face when she dashes towards you (her dashes have a 1 sec delay after one of them ends and she can't cast her E while dashing,you can do it)

ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20181 votes

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don't run toward the tower but instead be imprevedibile,or just sidestep when yo usee her ulting

stay behind minions and she can't pointblank (she would hit a minion anyway)

if you see that she's going for a point blank E throw yout abilities while she's dashing toward you,especially if you have an hard CC you will stop her combo and getting a free hit for yours

don't let her get that near,her ult range is 300,most of the mages AA range is 550 for a comparison,if you let her getting that near without punishing her you deserve to die

flash/use any mobility spell for dodging the charm

also you play yasuo,smash your W button and you stop her combo

I dont play yasuo the name is satire, but im pretty sure that a W wouldnt stop ahris entire combo considering how if you were smart at playing ahri you would bait the W with Q and go in with E R and W and side stepping isnt always possible when people can dash into your skull..... also throwing my abilities at a target that has 3 dashes isnt wise since ahri has more damage than most of the mid lane rooster and will kill you for nothing a second later assuming she doesnt just use R again and dodge everything or even guess what? A THIRD TIME.... you just told me to land a skill shot on something that can move faster than most skillshots and move more than once

wildfox99Aug 17, 20181 votes

you just told me to land a skill shot on something that can move faster than most skillshots and move more than once

if she's going for a point blank charm she's going toward you,land your skillshots right ahead you and you'll hit her

also many champions have defensive tools that can counter her,she dashes toward you?

press E Syndra press Q -> W Lux press E Taliyah and so on

for you it's all about predicting where she will dash,for her it's all about predicting where you will attack,if she won don't get mad,she was just better than you

KrullyAug 17, 20183 votes

ahri sympathisers/mains shouldn't be allowed to post tbqh

wildfox99Aug 17, 20183 votes

why should someone be discriminated for the champion that he play?

some people really becomes delusional when talking about some arguments [zombie-brand-mindblown]

ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20181 votes

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why should someone be discriminated for the champion that he play?

some people really becomes delusional when talking about some arguments [zombie-brand-mindblown]

You only play ahri... you only talk about ahri... you only say ahri is good... you only defend ahri... you only say ahri should be buffed... and you think just because you made it to diamond in EUW that you can tell people in elos above you and below you that they are boosted bonobos and that ahri is balanced...

wildfox99Aug 17, 20182 votes

You only play ahri

no sir,she's my main but i play almost every champion

you only talk about ahri

no,i just like talking about balance and since she's my main usually i can say more than others

you only say ahri is good... you only defend ahri... you only say ahri should be buffed

i defend her because she's not broken (like you can see me saying a lot of times that zed isn't OP despite the fact that i barely play him),i'll say again what i always say,she needs changes in her kit not nerfs,what she lacks is an idenity and her kit is too binary for being balanced properly

the best thing would be reworking (not buffing,reworking) her W giving it some skill espression

and you think just because you made it to diamond in EUW that you can tell people in elos above you and below you that they are boosted bonobos and that ahri is balanced

no,usually i don't even look at the elo of the people but if you start bitching because her charm have no counterplay i have to say it,her charm have a lot of counterplay it's you being bad

wildfox99Aug 17, 20185 votes

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ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20182 votes

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KlydeFrogAug 17, 20186 votes

Dude she isnt op.....

ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20181 votes

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Dude she isnt op.....

WR, PR, BR all im saying.

KlydeFrogAug 17, 20183 votes

And that means nothing. She hasnt changed really. Ohh man stop the presses her stun went up .4 at level 1 huge bufff lol gtfo

ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20181 votes

thats a huge buff.... do you not realize how long team fights are... it totally changed how you level up ahris abilities..... you no longer had to max E for duration and could instead max Q first giving you a lot more wave clear and damage going up .4 seconds in duration of a CC is a huge buff thats totally uncalled for TL:DR no matter how hard the ahri mains rally behind you because you are the only person here supporting them that isnt an ahri main doesnt make you or them right

KlydeFrogAug 17, 20181 votes

If you say so. .4 isnt anything. After level 1 its literally the samething as before

ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20181 votes

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If you say so. .4 isnt anything. After level 1 its literally the samething as before

Oh boy go into custom game with a friend go sion and try a fully charged sion Q against one thats just enough for the stun and see how you feel about "nothing"

KlydeFrogAug 17, 20181 votes

It is nothing. They raised tarics stun by less then that and people cry. I still max e first on him for cd purposes . same applies here.

wildfox99Aug 17, 20181 votes

Ohh man stop the presses her stun went up .4 at level 1 huge bufff lol gtfo

it's actually an huge buff but for higher elos/pro plays,for lower elos it's not a big change though

KlydeFrogAug 17, 20181 votes

It isnt a big change. Watch people play her before they "buffed" her and come talk then if you see or saw a huge change.

RanmaruAug 17, 20181 votes

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It isnt a big change. Watch people play her before they "buffed" her and come talk then if you see or saw a huge change.

It is a huge change why else did her winrate go up +4?

KlydeFrogAug 17, 20181 votes

Because people believe what they choose to believe. Meaning people think its huge when it truly isnt and meaning more people started playing her. People will still do the sane combos they did before as they do now

RanmaruAug 18, 20181 votes

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Because people believe what they choose to believe. Meaning people think its huge when it truly isnt and meaning more people started playing her. People will still do the sane combos they did before as they do now

LoL k Im a master tier smurf and your sooooo wroong

wildfox99Aug 18, 20181 votes

LoL k ** Im a master tier smurf ** and your sooooo wroong

i don't think this needs a comment [zombie-brand-facepalm]

RanmaruAug 18, 20181 votes

no i was trying to be like you

Rock MDAug 17, 20182 votes

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And that means nothing. She hasnt changed really. Ohh man stop the presses her stun went up .4 at level 1 huge bufff lol gtfo

That's... actually pretty huge. 0.4 seconds means you're guaranteed to land the Q backswing and gives your team a lot more time to react and chain CC or land easy combos.

RanmaruAug 17, 20181 votes

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That's... actually pretty huge. 0.4 seconds means you're guaranteed to land the Q backswing and gives your team a lot more time to react and chain CC or land easy combos.

EXACTLY HOLY CRAP EVERYONE UNDERESTIMATES .4 SECONDS AND SAYS ITS NOTHING LIKE I SAID

Add .4 seconds to brand stun add .4 seconds to lux root add .4 seconds to ornn knockup add .4 seconds to yasuos tornado add .4 seconds to any cc ability and POOF its way to strong

Rock MDAug 17, 20182 votes

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EXACTLY HOLY CRAP EVERYONE UNDERESTIMATES .4 SECONDS AND SAYS ITS NOTHING LIKE I SAID

Add .4 seconds to brand stun add .4 seconds to lux root add .4 seconds to ornn knockup add .4 seconds to yasuos tornado add .4 seconds to any cc ability and POOF its way to strong

Well you kinda don't know what you're talking about so I can see why people would ignore you in the rare instance you're right.

VanëssaAug 17, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Rock MD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UXqdxVu0,comment-id=000100000000000000000002,timestamp=2018-08-17T21:40:32.134+0000)

That's... actually pretty huge. 0.4 seconds means you're guaranteed to land the Q backswing and gives your team a lot more time to react and chain CC or land easy combos.

Ahm... you could still land double Q with 1 sec charm.

Rock MDAug 17, 20181 votes

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Ahm... you could still land double Q with 1 sec charm.

There's a difference between "you could" and "it's guaranteed".

The reason lots of players put points into E at levels 8 and 10 was because it gave just enough time so that if your opponent dashed on you, you could EQ and they didn't have an opportunity to outplay the backswing. With only one second in Charm, they could use a mobility spell or flat out dodge it in some cases if you were within around 300-400 units of them when you cast orb.

wildfox99Aug 17, 20181 votes

first off win rate doesn't mean a fk,but in any case she doesn't have the numbers you said

especially the 40% bann rate,where did you read it?

as inaccurate as those sites can be she have at max 6% bann rate

if you can't give me a better argument if not numbers of a patch that came out 3/4 days ago well,i'm out of this discussion

Jesus christ, your rank doesnt matter when people in all elos complain about her ffs....

honestly name me a guy above high plat that ever complained about her

most of the complains come from salty silvers/low golds because they just got outplayed

ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20181 votes

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first off win rate doesn't mean a fk,but in any case she doesn't have the numbers you said

especially the 40% bann rate,where did you read it?

as inaccurate as those sites can be she have at max 6% bann rate

if you can't give me a better argument if not numbers of a patch that came out 3/4 days ago well,i'm out of this discussion

honestly name me a guy above high plat that ever complained about her

most of the complains come from salty silvers/low golds because they just got outplayed

your opinion of an outplay is someone landing E and one shotting.... No its not an outplay watch the god damn replay and realize its not fair.... Its the champion you play the most the champion you have the highest winrate with and the champion you constantly defend even when shes in the wrong you are the most biased person on the forums and its shown in your posts of non stop defense no matter how many people complain about ahri... We cant say anything about her without you creeping on and rank shaming, name calling, and acting like ahri is perfectly fine, you say you are out of the discussion because im being inaccurate when my sources are just as valid as yours because neither of us cited any besides you citing my op.gg of course trying to derail the conversation by rank shaming and name calling instead of civil discourse... You are biased, whether im silver or challenger it means the same (if not more that im silver because we are the major of the game in which it should be balanced around) and if you notice EVERYONE STARTED PLAYING AHRI SINCE THE BUFFS!!! hIgh elo challenger players started picking ahri over tradional mages and comp based picks and you still want to say its my elos fault that ahri is stong its still totally no ones fault except for my fault that shiptur started playing ahri since the buffs (totally right???) you dont want to face the facts because its the only champion you play.

hey btw : SOURCES RIGHT HERE : https://champion.gg/champion/Ahri/Middle? https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/ahri https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/champion/ahri-89/stats https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Ahri/

HOLY SHIT EVERY SITE THAT LISTS win rates and pick rates AGREE WITH ME HUH PEOPLE WHO PLAYED 0-50 GAMES ON AHRI HAVE A 53% WIN RATE ONLY GOES UP FROM THERE it seems like you have no evidence you have nothing backing you up and you are simply shouting your own opinion ( I do have to agree that the 40% ban rate thing was inaccurate as i am willing to accept my mistakes and acknowledge them (you should do the same))

RanmaruAug 17, 20181 votes

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nothing to see here,just another silver complaining because he can't either dodge a skillshot or play behind minions

oh and what a surprise,you just lose against a fed ahri

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2848182553/234841450?tab=overview

you guys should really stop to complain about every champ that just rekt you,learn how to play instead of complaining

I lost to a fed ahri because once ahri got a component of an item and she charmed me and one comboed me but yeah! w/e!

wildfox99Aug 17, 20183 votes

almost as if a champion played correctly could punish you for doing mistakes [sg-lulu]

KlydeFrogAug 17, 20181 votes

Yep sounds right. Can hit you with charm and does so and so to your hp.....no sir can and if are different things . bro i stopped caring to give advice.... All i get is your a stupid low elo you dont know anything.

ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20181 votes

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Yep sounds right. Can hit you with charm and does so and so to your hp.....no sir can and if are different things . bro i stopped caring to give advice.... All i get is your a stupid low elo you dont know anything.

DUDE wildfox is RANK SHAMING ME for being silver but you go to them to say that they are correct for calling me a silver player because i thought that ahri having a huge charm buff duration wise and damage wise is uncalled for

wildfox99Aug 17, 20181 votes

and damage wise is uncalled for

they just buffed the charm duration,her damage wasn't touched

i never shamed you,maybe the OP but come on...he's complaining about missplaying,getting hit by skillshot and getting punished for that,what do you expect?

well,maybe i was a bit too ironic/rude (but after reading some comments that people does against ahri mains you would become salty as well trust me)

anwyway

you guys should really stop to complain about every champ that just rekt you,learn how to play instead of complaining

it was an honest tip,back in S6 i went from low silver to low plat just by doing that

ImGodlyatYasuoAug 17, 20181 votes

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they just buffed the charm duration,her damage wasn't touched

i never shamed you,maybe the OP but come on...he's complaining about missplaying,getting hit by skillshot and getting punished for that,what do you expect?

well,maybe i was a bit too ironic/rude (but after reading some comments that people does against ahri mains you would become salty as well trust me)

anwyway

it was an honest tip,back in S6 i went from low silver to low plat just by doing that

buffing charm duration is buffing damage she no longer needed to upgrade E first she could go straight into Q giving her tons of damage and wave clear

RanmaruAug 17, 20181 votes

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they just buffed the charm duration,her damage wasn't touched

i never shamed you,maybe the OP but come on...he's complaining about missplaying,getting hit by skillshot and getting punished for that,what do you expect?

well,maybe i was a bit too ironic/rude (but after reading some comments that people does against ahri mains you would become salty as well trust me)

anwyway

it was an honest tip,back in S6 i went from low silver to low plat just by doing that

Im complaining about getting hit by a skillshot when the person jumps onto me point blank

ToppienAug 17, 20183 votes

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nothing to see here,just another silver complaining because he can't either dodge a skillshot or play behind minions

oh and what a surprise,you just lose against a fed ahri

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2848182553/234841450?tab=overview

you guys should really stop to complain about every champ that just rekt you,learn how to play instead of complaining

yeah wtf, i mean i complain a lot about zed, but he has point click ult and undodgeable skillshots that pass throwgh minions

Ahri is very transparent about what shes going to do, and all of her skills have a counter

her q? dodge to the sides

her w? stay behind minions

her e? dodge to the side, if point blank, STAY BEHIND MINIONS

her r? circle around minions you chump

seriously...

Rock MDAug 17, 20184 votes