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Is now the worst time for game balance?

Regina George·1/29/2015, 6:11:31 PM·123 votes·21,573 views

I know there have been times or patches that was crazy. Release Xin, release Leblanc, League of Cleavers, League of Warmogs, the time when Bruisers were dominating everything, heal/poke meta etc to name a few, but I feel like at least, during these past instances, it was only 1-2 things that was blatantly unbalanced.

Now it feels like, the jungle is super unfair cause only a handful of champs can excel in it, mages have been getting pushed aside because of the mana regen nerfs PLUS the athenes/morello's nerf PLUS the removal of DFG, while resourceless champs still have no issues. Squishy supports are getting nerfed while their tankier counterparts are still amazing. Jungle and Support gold income are still unimpressive. Jungle XP is ridiculously low. Champs who has so many free stats or multiple effects on a single skill and so many more issues that are so blatant right now.

It feels like the balance team is playing a different game than us. They even admitted that Lee and Zed are really strong, and yet they nerf Sona again. Their goal was to have a more diverse jungle, but they increase the cost of the jungling item, punishing the squishy/tanky junglers who cleared a lot slower than the AD/bruiser or junglers with sustain.

WHAT IS HAPPENING

191 Comments

Direwolfiez1/29/2015, 7:51:03 PM22 votes

Now it feels like, the jungle is super unfair cause only a handful of champs can excel in it,

Thank Fearless for the jungle changes, and the Sona rework to boot. The guy admitted that he ignored community feedback because he wanted a bug-free kit rework. Look where that put Sona.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/player/NA/Fearless http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/c99MUnvw-an-open-letter-to-fearless-regarding-the-sona-changes?comment=000600000001 http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/c99MUnvw-an-open-letter-to-fearless-regarding-the-sona-changes?comment=00020000

ImHerVoice1/29/2015, 7:29:50 PM20 votes

welcome to league of Esports where a company that wants to control whats played in high elo/Pro scene does it. And this is what you get. Its like sc2 all over again. Except less korean teams.

Miku Lv991/29/2015, 8:18:42 PM16 votes

Right now is probably the worst the game has ever been balanced. There are a lot of champions that are significantly OP and a lot of champions that are just almost completely unusable. The difference between the good and bad champions is way too big.

Although, in an attempt to be fair, this is the hardest the game has ever been to balance.

WooBeeWoo1/29/2015, 8:27:43 PM15 votes

This is hands down the worst this game as been since I started playing. Balance blows

Rynth1/29/2015, 9:47:01 PM11 votes

It's been worse, but only a few times before the meta was even established. 60 second invis twitch with tiamat on his ult would proc ~15 autoattacks worth of damage per enemy per shot when hitting all 5 enemy champions. Jax could stack 6 ninja tabis to get his stun reset anytime someone autoattacked him without sword of the divine active. Release xin.

If you want to succeed now, you have to play the fotm champions. A couple years back, fotm champs were considered slightly stronger. Now the game mechanics (such as the jungle changes) have been made in a way such that you have to play them.

The problem with the state of the game right now is less that some champions are overpowered, that would be easy enough to fix in a patch or two, but riot has shifted from developing a game for the players to developing a game meant to be spectated. Don't get me wrong, some rioters are still clearly making an attempt to please the player-base and we all appreciate their efforts, but issues such as zed's dominance of the midlane and cass' rework stripping the character of her identity just wouldn't have happened a couple years ago and I can't help but miss the company that riot used to be.

Kalarepa1/29/2015, 8:43:45 PM10 votes

I just opened LCS. GMB vs SK. 9/10 champions with gap closers, the only one without is support Lulu. Great balance, Riot.

lojician1/29/2015, 9:54:26 PM7 votes

As a top lane main absolutely hell yes. The lane was transformed from 1v1 melee (so there's more pressure and denial opportunity) deathmatch into being dominated by champions you have to play defensively against on almost the entire class of champions that I enjoy and basically just being a farm lane until you teleport into teamfights if you really want to play optimally.

It's not so much that new top lane sucks as that they had a great thing that a lot of people liked and they decided to replace it with something else entirely. And when what they've replaced it with is ranged harass spam and lcs teleport plays it's pretty easy to believe it's the intentional decision of the balance team to tell everyone that enjoyed old top lane to screw off because they like the new thing.

Skias1/29/2015, 11:25:44 PM7 votes

I love Riot and League. Even though I get frustrated with balance team's choices concerning marksmen, the jungle and free stats, im still invested in the game. Ive been playing since season 1, and this is the first season I dont really even want to touch ranked.

The new jungle seems to be so steep for players to learn, they can hardly even manage it most games. Factor in the crazy dragon buffs and now you have a situation where the game quickly snowballs out of control.

I enjoy the game a lot less with the high mobility, crazy damage and ineffective resistances. It feels less like a strategy game and more of a twitch reflex game.

I always hope that Riot will reevaluate they power they give high mobility, high sustain champions but patches go by and it doesn't happen.

I might not be the most qualified player to make these judgements, but I am a long time customer and fan.

Señor Karthus1/30/2015, 6:57:12 AM6 votes

Obviously Riot had to reply to an empty whiny thread and not to the thoughtful and detailed ones that have been going on all this week. Talking about cherry picking to justify their lack of communication...

Fuaztin1/30/2015, 7:52:06 AM2 votes

Voyboy said it was one of the best times to play with so much variety. Watch the 5.2 update. He knows what he's talking about.

Akesgeroth1/30/2015, 4:30:15 AM1 votes

The game has seen far, far worse when it comes to balance.

Solidair31/30/2015, 5:42:23 AM1 votes

As if.

League of Black Cleavers was the real nightmare. This shit is ezpz.