How does the ranking system work?

JustSir··1 votes·469 views

I just went 6-4 on my promotional games, and carried at least 3 games but i was only placed in bronze 4!?!? i was Silver 4 before the season reset!

i am very pissed at the moment and what to know why the hell i went down 5 ranks!

10 Comments

VitaNovaGypsy2 votes

Simple. It doesn't. Work that is. It wasn't supposed to. RIOT said nothing about fairness. If it doesn't involve money they aren't bothering with it.

JustSir1 votes

thats kinda bullshit...nice to know my hours of practicing cs in custom games paid off...saw a guy win 10/10 and get bronze 5...i lost 4 and was placed in bronze 4...this is so dumb. Whats the fucking point of this game if the ranking system doesnt actually work

VitaNovaGypsy1 votes

Point of the game is to bring money into RIOT's pockets. I guess I don't mind the reset too much because EVERYONE is being dropped down. That makes it fair even though it's not what I personally wanted to happen. Now we just gotta buck up and start grinding. I highly recommend adding the good players you see to your list and using them.

bloodybadger11 votes

winning 10/10 means nothing if you beat people who are all bronze 5. Especially if those people are the really bad bronze 5 or fresh bronze coming from unranked play. However, i concede that winning 10/10 shouldn't give you bronze 5, it should at least give you about bronze 3. If anything winning those games should place you against better bronze but then seemingly you should and would do worse in cs, kda, and, obviously as a result, the winning percent . Duo games might affect that guys placement as well, although i dont know the specifics.

The ranked system does work which is the problem. It just takes too much time to get to your "true" rank. However, this is expected because if a small number of games could find your true mmr it would probably just be too small a sample size. A small sample size used to determine your rank is bad because it introduces a large amount of error and random chance. Thus riot places you lower (rather than higher) because they think if you dont belong you can get out anyway and encourages actually playing ranked because you aren't stagnating or plateauing at your "true" rank right out of the gate. (again, if they accidently somehow guessed your true rank from the beginning then it was probably by extreme chance because after 10 games there just isnt enough data).

I got placed s5 last season, rose to g2 (only skipped g3 oddly enough), played on my smurf and got placed in s1 this time. My first game in s1 however, was against 2 p5s 2 g2s and a g3. Thats annoying, but acceptable since i have a true mmr around g2 like my main. This is only annoying in getting out of the rank s1, but isnt affecting my mmr much.

darkmatchwaldo2 votes

winning 10/10 doesn't mean anything if your MMR is shit.

darkmatchwaldo2 votes

Sure you were Silver 4 but your rank and MMR are separate. You could go 10/10 in your promotional games and not get placed back in s4. I think the idea is that if you are good enough, you'll get back to s4. To make sure you actually belonged at your rank. It gives people who were Plat+ a reason to keep playing, they do it to prove they belong where they are. You've got the entire year ahead of you to climb, it's not a big deal.

JustSir2 votes

well they should apply that shit to platinums and up! not send people BACK to elo hell after almost escaping it!

darkmatchwaldo2 votes

Well if you're good enough to get out, you'll get out. It's that simple.

JustSir1 votes

I have no doubt I'll get out! But I already put the time and effort into getting out the first time!

bloodybadger11 votes

Never play ranked right away unless you are much better than where you wanna get placed. The reset causes everyone to be condensed into a smaller mmr range and this causes more inconsistency in the matchmaking. The dynamic queue and new champ select seemed to have been a little screwy as well with matchmaking before the actual season started as well. I hope you climb and eventually you will if you are truly at least silver. Keep calm and play on.

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