How to improve Blitzcrank Q hitbox/visuals

CleverCactus·Dec 6, 2017·627 votes·132,352 views

A lot of times people get hit by Blitzcrank Q because the hitbox is slightly bigger than the visuals, and the fist animation is very outdated. We can kill two birds with one stone by changing the model of Blitzcranks hand during his hook, to improve the visuals and make it better represent the hitbox.

So instead of having a weird closed fist go next to champions, attach to them, then come back, the hand should be open like on his splash art, like he is reaching out to grab you. Then once it catches someone it can change the model to be closed on the pull back.

https://i.imgur.com/7nP6kJJ.png (sorry for bad photo job)

139 Comments

RiotRiot King CobraDec 6, 2017234 votes

Oh wow that looks really cool. :o

ModCaptainMårvelousDec 6, 201715 votes

You should take him top. Especially against Jax.

MajorDangerDec 7, 20177 votes

I would love to watch the Riot King Cobra vs. Hashinshin match again.

MelledoneusDec 8, 20172 votes

U N S T O P P A B LE

BY THE WAY

DianaIsMyWifeDec 6, 201736 votes

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Oh wow that looks really cool. :o

Do what the man Says Riot :)

CleverCactusDec 6, 20176 votes

Glad you like it!

XilixerDec 7, 201714 votes

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Oh wow that looks really cool. :o

seriously consider this please. as this is an amazing idea and would reduce a ton of salt.

J5Cld2hgRxDec 7, 20173 votes

Why not just reduce hitbox? Much better

Fortis8Dec 7, 20174 votes

Man update old champions like this... check for improvements, and reward CleverCactus on this one.

ResterDec 6, 201786 votes

I like this idea, and the hitbox seems to sorta match what might be the questionable ones when you get grabbed just a few pixels away from the hand's position.

Totally Not JinxDec 6, 20172 votes

I find this to be a huge problem with Thresh as well. I'll be sitting what looks like 5 or 6 pixels away from his hook, but I still get stunned and dragged back. It's super confusing a lot of the time.

It Hertz When IPDec 7, 20174 votes

Doesn't help that his hook's hitbox changes in flight.

HaloDec 7, 20178 votes

Most league skillshots have are what riot describes as popsicle hitboxes. Just at when the skillshit is about to end, it becomes larger at the end. This ia why thresh can hit you with a hook even if youre right behind a minion.

AbibyamaDec 6, 201767 votes

It also matches his splash art

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/d/dc/Blitzcrank_OriginalSkin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170621012512

Mighty MorteinDec 6, 201739 votes

Exactly. Plus, it's called Rocket grab, not rocket punch. The visuals would better match the ability name too.

AlwaysInYourBaseDec 6, 201713 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVfv1YctCLg

Señor WeazelDec 6, 201727 votes

def upvoting this. Its perfect.

LùmenDec 6, 201718 votes

Wow, that edit actually looks legit. Have my upvote

CleverCactusDec 6, 20178 votes

Haha, I just cut and pasted the hand from one of his older splash arts, I'm surprised it looked that good.

kattzkittiDec 6, 201715 votes

Blitzcrank just needs a full VGU. His model is horrifically outdated, and his kit is the definition of anti-fun (no counterplay, obscenely abusive). Hook needs the Darius treatment (windup and indicator), mobility needs a cost and cooldown window, and ult needs the free damage removed. Fine-tune from there.

marpatt11Dec 6, 201715 votes

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Blitzcrank just needs a full VGU. His model is horrifically outdated, and his kit is the definition of anti-fun (no counterplay, obscenely abusive). Hook needs the Darius treatment (windup and indicator), mobility needs a cost and cooldown window, and ult needs the free damage removed. Fine-tune from there.

tf? no counterplay? just play anybody with any amount of mobility or someway to avoid the hook like Vayne , Braum , Ezreal , Lucian , Tristana , Xayah , Vladimir , Riven , Malzahar , and anyone who currently has summoner 4 up. I can agree on the model, he really needs at least a VU. His kit isn't anti-fun. You play a minigame of "can you dodge the hook this time?" and if the answer is yes, then you go in SINCE HE HAS NO INSTANT ESCAPES SO SLOWS INSTA KILL HIM. The hook doesn't need darius treatment, it already has a windup of blitz just standing there for a sec and an indicator of THE HOOK ITSELF He has no mobility so it doesn't need a cooldown window, less you're talking about W, where he slows himself for a sec at the end of it. Ult doesn't need its free damage removed or there would be no need for static to be around his chest, removing the possibility of always knowing when he has ult.

TMC SolarflashDec 6, 20172 votes

i agree wiht you the only thing you have to do is sidestep thhe hokk and everything is fine. Thats why i think he is a useless champ.

ninjaroxasDec 6, 201711 votes

"Just dodge it" until he lands one hook then you die

Faceroll TacticsDec 6, 20176 votes

If his team is near you should die. Do you want a full list of much easier skills to hit that you’re dead if they tap you?

Anything Annie has Elise Cocoon Nautilus q or ult Gragas ultimate Camille ult Udyr stun Warwick ult Rakan ult w which is so much faster and is basically a point and click knockup I fucking hate it Malphite ult Sona ult Ryze W Maokai W Shen E Rammus combo Sejuani ult

All of these assuming you’re squishy and in a teamfight, because that’s the only situation where a blitz hook will spell your death immediately

Sexy Jack RabbitDec 7, 20172 votes

Where's your mention of this little bitch? Zoe

AIIanDec 7, 20171 votes

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If his team is near you should die. Do you want a full list of much easier skills to hit that you’re dead if they tap you?

Anything Annie has

Needs a VGU.

Elise Cocoon

Doesn't pull you, team can hold the line.

Nautilus q or ult

Ult is slow, telegraphed, doesn't pull you, lots of counterplay. Q pushes him as much as it pulls you, sacrifice mobility for a catch and vice-versa.

Gragas ultimate

Needs a VGU.

Camille ult

Won't lock you in a hard CC chain for 3s, plenty of space to move around, Camille has to expose herself and it doesn't pull you.

Udyr stun

He needs to get close, doesn't pull you, still less CC than blitz combo.

Warwick ult

skillshot ultimate, ww exposes himself, still fucking doesn't pull you oh my fucking god are you doing it on purpose ?.

I'll stop there, it basically boils down to "actual counterplay included", "isn't a pull that send you straight in the middle of 5 people and 800 range away from you team" or "needs a VGU".

Faceroll TacticsDec 7, 20172 votes

You’re acting like blitz hook is point and click, a skillshot has “actual counterplay included”

Jerry SeinfeIdDec 6, 20173 votes

His ult dmg isn't that exceptional compared to other tanks. And it's quite essential to ap and aptank blitzcrank.

His hook is imo harder than thresh hook to land and thrash hook Has a windup. It's easy to sidestep, sidestepping itself is kinda hard. It's really simple you just have to decide in a split second, while you're running away it also feels contradictory to running away from him.

Blitz is a simple champion but his design always works. He's never gonna be bad.

Champions don't NEED to be lcs picks.

KarunamonDec 6, 20175 votes

Except it's never just "an ult" with Blitz. It's always a combo of every skill he has at once. E leads into Q leads into W+R. Once he lands that Q, you're onboard for the full ride.

NilokDec 6, 201713 votes

Fixes the issue with minimal alteration, that is just perfect.

General Esdeath Dec 6, 201710 votes

Open hand looks scary tbh

It fits the feel perfectly!

Autrah FangDec 6, 20178 votes

honestly... it should've been an open hand in the first place.. logically speaking, the way it is now looks like he's trying to long range punch the enemy, not grab them. how do you grab people with a closed fist without some sort of adhesive?

Faceroll TacticsDec 6, 201710 votes

Well if it’s an ap blitz it’d be akin to impaling someone with the fist

ShadowParkerDec 6, 20176 votes

I actually really like this. However I think the hand should only open up at the end as that's when it actually searches for something to grab otherwise the hitbox looks bigger than it actually is

MCNT052Dec 6, 201711 votes

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I actually really like this. However I think the hand should only open up at the end as that's when it actually searches for something to grab otherwise the hitbox looks bigger than it actually is

Wouldn't that still give the small illusion of how big his hand is?

Like while it's flying at you, you see the fist and think "Nah not big enough, no need to move/flash."

AbyssionKnightDec 6, 201730 votes

The entire point of this is because the hand doesn't match the hitbox. He wants the open hand to be the same size as the hitbox so it's a clear visual that also makes more sense.

Also, your idea doesn't really work since a grab can happen at any point between blitz and it's max range, so keeping it closed until it hits doesn't really make sense, given how fast the pull is.

TMC SolarflashDec 6, 20176 votes

I really like this idea since im a support main and play blitz alot. but i also thiink that you should fix another thing that i have noticed. Ive noticed that when you click at the q to see the range the range indicator is actully a little bit shorter then the actual range and this may be confusing for some people trying out blitz for the first time.