I cannot play Cho'Gath after the changes to his ult visual

CleverCactus··170 votes·11,335 views

I genuinely cannot see Cho'Gath's ult. I am red-green colorblind, and the removal of the bright ring around targets in Feast range is all but invisible to me, even on Aram. Can he please get his bright visual back, at least maybe on colorblind mode?

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Novalas130 votes

Hey friend, I'll fwd this to the right people on Monday.

Kai Guy2 votes

Doing good work. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

CleverCactus11 votes

Thank you! There's a couple other abilities I have trouble with seeing, but this one is so critical to playing Cho'Gath, it made it super frustrating to have to guess.

Novalas40 votes

Feel free to list the abilities that you have difficulties seeing. It's helpful info.

Krytoric3 votes

could we say some that are hard to see for blue / green colorblind too? theres some random abilities that i cant see the radius of and stuff like that lel

Novalas31 votes

By all means.

Let me just emphasize that all I'm able to do is fwd this to the right people. That doesn't mean that the issues will be solved immediately.

MuffledGarbage1 votes

would a possible solution be to have colorblind mode have a small outline of the hitboxes of each of the abilities spoken of on the ground(Assuming a particular skillshot is a problem)

Wullf2 votes

QA classics

see a problem on the internet asks about the problem reports the problem

Design: https://media.tenor.com/images/9fe7af2ce63170d549d28e5812624657/raw

Ok sure but why2 votes

Could I list some things that are hard to see when I close my eyes?

ahferroin71 votes

FWIW, the easiest test is to completely desaturate the image. If you can't differentiate two colors in that case, then someone with colorblindness probably can't either. This won't catch all cases, but it's a good base to work with.

Zelorxon1 votes

I have a serious difficulty in seeing my teammates autos or spells during a teamfight or my adc heal whenever i decide to interact with bot lane, do you guys know any fix for this visual bug?

Oh also i can't see their ults in teamfight either, and sometimes i see their model ulting a minion wave (yet they still don't push them after lv7) even if i know the spell didn't actually went off, it's very annoying to play with these bugs...

CleverCactus7 votes

Forsaken Jayce: His unenhanced Q is hard to see, the sort of dark-red on green grass is one of the hardest for me to see. Classic Swain: His E is similar, I think if these abilities had some brighter orange in them it would be much easier to notice them in fights, while still matching the red color scheme. Classic Ornn Ult indicator: Not as bad because you can just watch the goat, but the thin, dark-red lines are super hard to see on green grass.

These one's aren't nearly so bad, it just feels like I have to look much closer to notice them whereas if they use different skins it's easier

Kelb4n1 votes

As now someone seems to be listening: In ARAM, I have problems to see blue (allied) hitboxes in colorblind mode. Maybe make the hitboxes a different color in ARAM? An example is Ziggs R.

CLÜE1 votes

From someone who's also colorblind, omega squad veigar's e and w are pretty much impossible to see.

SpectralReality1 votes

Nice to see that people from riot see actual problems and respond xD, thanks for doing what you do

Yara05 votes

Yah riot will fix that asap if they are told about it. quite a few pro players are colorblind so riots always been pretty aware about the problems colorblind people can have with the game. Should be fixed in no time tbh.

IDK why but i play in colorblind mode despite not being colorblind lol i think i just prefer the hp bars in it.

Terozu1 votes

IDK why but i play in colorblind mode despite not being colorblind lol i think i just prefer the hp bars in it.

Saaaaaaaammmmeeeeee.

I switched it one once figuring it would look weird or something, and all it did to my knowledge was change the health bar. I changed back once a couple months ago and hated the normal colors.

Muten Shensei4 votes

I too am red-green color blind so I will support your cause even tho I don't play cho.

Asudurga3 votes

I don't have colour-blindness but I am short-sighted, so it affects me too as I'd have to squint to even see the indicator and it ruins my reaction times in game.

DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

Not like it matters, it'd have to show up on everyone all the time anyways.

Does suck for ya. Hope it gets fixed soon.

YerroFever2 votes

Upvote! Hope this gets resolved!

Daddy Tie Me Up1 votes

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Beacon Academy17 votes

So should Caitlyn have her indicator removed for when people step on her traps as well?

I mean obviously with your superior intellect you'll always remember how far she can shoot.

Even better, we can get rid of Camille's jump distance indicator for her second leap since you play her too!

That should keep you thinking & calculating unit distance with your overly superior intellect!

Just like you wanted!

Daddy Tie Me Up2 votes

Damn you destroyed me right here. So when is Darius getting ult indicator? Or Garen? When is Pantheon getting guaranteed crit indicator?

CleverCactus8 votes

Garen does have an ult indicator actually, it only works on the villain however because that's the only time it does true damage.

Daddy Tie Me Up2 votes

So garen has to think only sometimes. Too bad chogath doesnt have to think at all.

Supreme Senpai6914 votes

who hurt you

Sp33d Zer08 votes

Someone probably twisted his dick with their toes.

Supreme Senpai697 votes

But I heard it was the best footjob across all the EUW.

Terozu4 votes

Lesson learned, stat away from EUW.

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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CytheGuy1 votes

Yeah, some of us played him. He was a cool niche who was fun to play randomly and fun to play over and over. Me and my dad even had an on-running competition to see who could get 6 stacks the fastest. We ended up making it to around 9 minutes before he got infinite stacks.

Von Everly2 votes

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Did people actually play him? He was extremely weak back then and had one of the lowest pick rates.

I did and do...Chogath item 3070

OilegibtKoile2 votes

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Damn you literally cant play cho gath when you dont see kill marker? I fucking wonder how people played him when he did not have it. Maybe, just maybe, they used their brain and calculated? Naaaah how could I even suggest Cho gath players could use their brains.

But every other Cho Gath player that isnt colorblind can be "brainless"?

Daddy Tie Me Up1 votes

Yeah my point is more like, remove indicator completely and make cho gath require at least 3 braincells.

Slythion3 votes

Damn dude, what's your problem? why are you being so aggro, chill out. Take a step back and remember how to be a decent person again my guy

1Maza2 votes

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Damn you literally cant play cho gath when you dont see kill marker? I fucking wonder how people played him when he did not have it. Maybe, just maybe, they used their brain and calculated? Naaaah how could I even suggest Cho gath players could use their brains.

I agree with this, I didn't even know his ult HAD an indicator. Lmao.

Master Noct1 votes

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Damn you literally cant play cho gath when you dont see kill marker? I fucking wonder how people played him when he did not have it. Maybe, just maybe, they used their brain and calculated? Naaaah how could I even suggest Cho gath players could use their brains.

Yeesh, no need to be a %%%%, lol.

The guy JUST asked for a visual for Cho's ult. Like why does Darius have a visual effect? Why does Soraka have a visual effect? Why does Gnar have a visual effect? Why does Kata have a visual effect?

Talk about accessibility, lol.

Daddy Tie Me Up1 votes

I wonder myself. I do not understand who is incapable of counting to 5 on darius, or doesnt notice move speed boost on soraka, and I really wonder why does gnar have visual effectg.

Master Noct1 votes

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I wonder myself. I do not understand who is incapable of counting to 5 on darius, or doesnt notice move speed boost on soraka, and I really wonder why does gnar have visual effectg.

Because visual cues are important. Why do spells have visual cues then? Why can't you guess where spells are going? Why would you be able to see summs then? Because it's important to knowing what's going on. I'd like to know when Darius is fully stacked from one person to the next without having to make sure I'm watching him 100% of the time when there's a lot more things going on.

Daddy Tie Me Up1 votes

DUDE WHAT VISUAL CUE ON FUCKING CHO ULT. ITS POINTCLICK ABILITY THAT DEALS TRUE FUCKING DAMAGE. YOU CAN LITERALLY PUT NUMBERS IN CALCUTOR AND YOU KNOW WHAT DAMAGE IT DOES. AND IF ENEMY HP<ULT DAMAGE, ITS YOUR FUCKING KILL MARKER.

I really fucking wonder why does a TRUE DAMAGE ULT (true damage ignores resistances) even have fucking indicator. Riven should have ult indicator because not only its normal damage, it also scales with enemies missing hp. THATS WHERE INDICATOR SHOULD BE. Not on fucking cho gath. Not on fucking Garen.

Master Noct1 votes

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DUDE WHAT VISUAL CUE ON FUCKING CHO ULT. ITS POINTCLICK ABILITY THAT DEALS TRUE FUCKING DAMAGE. YOU CAN LITERALLY PUT NUMBERS IN CALCUTOR AND YOU KNOW WHAT DAMAGE IT DOES. AND IF ENEMY HP<ULT DAMAGE, ITS YOUR FUCKING KILL MARKER.

I really fucking wonder why does a TRUE DAMAGE ULT (true damage ignores resistances) even have fucking indicator. Riven should have ult indicator because not only its normal damage, it also scales with enemies missing hp. THATS WHERE INDICATOR SHOULD BE. Not on fucking cho gath. Not on fucking Garen.

That's what Cho's visual indicator basically does, lol. What you want on Riven is what Cho has, it's the same thing.

Daddy Tie Me Up1 votes

I dont want it on riven and i dont want it on cho gath. Especially cho gath, when his kit is already semi autistic.

Il Conte Eiacula1 votes

I understand your situation and I have similar problems with Conqueror Karma, I can't see her skills and it's frustrating

Akali Prime1 votes

im not color blind and i cant see it either, hell i thought they removed the indication completely.

Slythion1 votes

I honestly thought they removed it completely until I saw a thread awhile ago talking about this...it really does suck

Caleigh1 votes

Thought I was alone!

jama6551 votes

hello fellow red-green color blind person lol

TwitchInMyPants1 votes

I'm not colorblind and I can't even see the indicator. IDK what the reasoning is for that change they made, I guess "Visual Clutter", but really its a pointless indicator if its something you can't see during a teamfight when you'd most need to know.

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