How to counterpick top laners with "supports" or adc champs :

StormBladeMaster·2/22/2020, 3:19:56 PM·1 votes·2,080 views

Hello everyone, i'm playing a lof of supports on top lane especially Karma because she is awesome, let's me give you some bans/advices about them. I also play some adcs top :

First the supports :

Karma : Karma is great for top lane, her RW will prevent most of your opponents from killing you, especially Darius Ornn. You don't need to play her tank, you can go support. Be careful about jungler but the current top lane situation is in your favor.

Since Sona and Soraka have been nerfed, Karma is a good replacement.

What you should ban : Kayle because she scales and she will be better in lategame, Nasus (same reason as Kayle), Gangplank (he scales and he is annoying).

Karma top is good against : Darius Garen Sett Mordekaiser Ornn Malphite Singed Illaoi, they will not be able to kill you alone if you play well.

Then we have Senna top. It's pretty good to harass and get a lot of stacks on melee champs. But you also counter adcs like Quinn top because you deal more dmg than her and scale better and you outscale Kayle.

What you should ban : Mordekaiser (Mordekaiser can be a problem with his ultimate and his E), Irelia (too many dashes), Gangplank (scale and can deal big ranged dmg with his barrels). Malphite and Ornn can be a problem with their ultimate. Also care for jungler.

Senna top is good against : Darius Garen DrMundo Nasus Fiora Illaoi Kayle Quinn, you can have stacks easily and you can outscale quinn and Kayle. Quinn shouldn't be able to kill you in early game if you play safe, harass her with your Q and if she ganks, you can ulti.

Morgana : Morgana is great vs a team with a lot of CC. Especially when you have a Katarina or a Yi in your team and you know they will have a hard time vs a Bliztcrank supp and a Nautilus mid, then you can pick Morgana and make your teammate useful again with a blackshield.

Morgana counter Jax because he will never be able to stun you with your E and you can cage easily if he dash on you. At lvl 6, your ulti will make him useless and if he dares to approach you, he will take a lot of damage.

Morgana is good if your jungler gank, your 3s cage will help him to get the kill.

What you should ban : Camille (can be problematic), Vladimir (his W can dogde your Q), Mordekaiser (ultimate), Nasus (scale), Kayle (scale) Gangplank (cleanse + scale) Yasuo (can block your spells. ) Fiora (can parry your cage)

Morgana top is good against : Jax Irelia Darius Garen Kled Sion Illaoi Kennen Riven Sett

Bard : Bard scales with his passive, he deals a big dmg and can help his jungler to gank. He should be safe from most of melee champs.

What you should ban : Fiora (can parry the stun) Camille (huge mobility) Irelia (huge mobility) Gangplank (cleanse + scale) Jax (can be dangerous if you can't stun him when he dash on you) Yasuo (huge mobility + windwall)

Bard is good vs : Darius Garen Mordekaiser Illaoi Sett Nasus

Janna is very situationnal compared to the others supp but you can do some things if you counterpick. You also need your bot to be good because you are here to protect the adc.

You should lane vs melee champ with limited mobility. Janna is the best vs Fiora because Fiora is squishy, she can't reach Janna and her ulti will be useless vs Janna ultimate.

But you have a lot of bad MU like Gangplank Irelia Camille Nasus Mordekaiser

Janna will have problems for pushing lane and having utility if her team can't play safe or win lane.

ADCS :

Caitlyn : Caitlyn is good vs melee champs or ranged on top lane as long you can stay away from them and attack when you are safe.

You counter Riven Darius Sett Garen Illaoi Kayle Quinn Fiora Nasus Renekton Teemo if you play good. Use your E when you see the enemy approaching you and combo him. Poke them to death and be careful about enemy jungler.

Fiora, Quinn and Kayle are the best MU for you. Fiora hates being poked in early, AA her everytime she tries to farm and uses bushes to prevent minions from focusing you.

Fiora only have her Q to approach you and you can react by pressing E.

Quinn is squishy like you and it's a good thing. That means both of your team have a squishy top laner so it's balanced. You can destroy her in lane easily if you are good with Cait.

Kayle will be melee from 1-6, poke her, harass her. Her ulti have a lot of cooldown compared to your, you can kill her.

What you should ban as Caitlyn top: Mordekaiser (ultimate) Malphite (ultimate) Ornn (ultimate) Camille (dashes) Irelia (obvious) Gangplank (GP ruins the fun, so you must ban him on all matchups), Yasuo (dashes + windwall).

MissFortune : With MF, no need to take a summoner 12 because her W passive gives her a lot of MS. You can easily back and return on your lane fast.

MF is good vs melee champs with limited mobility. You can harass them and in teamfight you will be useful with your ultimate.

You are good vs Quinn Kayle Nasus Singed Teemo Cassiopeia Chogath and even Gangplank because your MS will help you to dodge his barrels.

What you should ban: Malphite (unless he is on your team), Jax, Mordekaiser, Camille Riven Yasuo (Yasuo is a must ban, his windwall make your ultimate useless).

Xayah : Xaya is a safe adc with a good ultimate. Her feathers can be a pain for your opponent.

You are good vs Quinn Kayle Darius Garen Nasus Fiora Riven Illaoi Sett

You should ban : Gangplank (can cleanse the CC + annoying) Irelia (many dashes) Camille (dashes + ulti) Mordekaiser (ultimate), Yasuo (obvious)

Lucian Tristana Vayne are common pick adc for top lane.

10 Comments

Z3SIeeper2/22/2020, 3:43:00 PM8 votes

I hate ranged tops but I completely approve, keep doing it, you and everyone like you is doing everyone a favor really.

It helps show that no matter how many ranged champions Riot nerfs, another will spring up as an oppressive top laner, proving how bad the state of top lane is for its intended inhabitants.

Riot needs to realize the ranged champions aren't the problem, it's the melees that don't have answers to them.

EATARI2/22/2020, 10:53:50 PM3 votes

Hell yeah brother. Ranged tops are the bomb. Top lane is the wild west lane, with over half of the champion roster being playable. It’s crazy, obscene, and unpredictable. I love it.

LanceTheJungler2/23/2020, 6:52:17 AM1 votes

Based. Free wins for me the alpha aatrox main, and it makes weakling juggernaut players mald. Good job my friend.

Nyarlathοtep2/22/2020, 6:37:43 PM

Are you advocating people to pick ranged top or is it me? Why do you keep contributing to the problem? Do you hate the world or anything?