Singed Poision Trail Dissapears if He Goes in Brush/Loss Of Vision

doiminat0r3600··6 votes·1,365 views

I noticed this whilst I was playing against a singed. It was very difficult trying to keep track of where his invisible poision was vs where it wasnt. It still damaged me and the minons. It could be good for singed to have it dissapear for escape purposes but it could also be good for it to be visible for juke purposes.

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The Voids Call1 votes

How would visible poison be better for "juke purposes", it's not like he can have his poison go off in a different direction than he runs. If anything the poison disappearing is better for juking, because he can say run around red buff, then run towards the krugs, around the red buff towards baron/dragon pit, or circle back towards the respective base.

If the enemy loses vision on him while he is passing in front of red buff, then his poison trail being visible would only act as a looneytoons style " HE WENT THIS WAY ==>" sign.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Juke purposes being that you can run in tri, change directions (going around a corner) and then turn off your poision and run in a different direction. The problem with invisible poison is the fact that you cant see where the poison is from the enemy perspective. All of a sudden youre being slowed because Singed has item 3116 and you cant see the poison trail.

The Voids Call1 votes

except if you did that, then they would see that you ran in a 3 point turn style.

doiminat0r36001 votes

That's what would separate the skill levels. Being able to press q at a certain time because it doesn't take 5 years to stop/start the poison trail.

They wouldn't see you if you are building singed with a good bit of MS (the way he is meant to be played).

I eat dragons1 votes

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doiminat0r36001 votes

Every other spell is invisible if you cant see the champion? I'm sure karthus ult isnt invisible, nor are blitz hooks (how insane would that be).

I eat dragons1 votes

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TaoistMaster1 votes

spaghetti coding?

or working as intended?

doiminat0r36001 votes

It's not a glitch. It's a feature.

Quepha2 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhBZWyoU7YU

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most channeled/toggle spell

Swain ult Kat Ult Nunu ult Karthus E

That is a VERY old clip. Riot eventually changed it so that using abilities used from fog doesn't make them invisible if they're going to hit you. Complaints about Nidalee's invisible spears were hitting critical mass so Riot finally changed things.

Singed poison for some reason still goes invisible.

I eat dragons1 votes

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Quepha2 votes

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Have you never played Nunu?

His ult very much still does that, as does Katarina and various others.

Nidalee's was a bug and was never intended this had been working the way it's supposed to for years.

Katarina becomes visible as soon as she deals damage, and she is dealing damage constantly as long as someone is in range. I didn't realize Nunu still doesn't become visible during ult, but the enemy does become slowed when they enter the AoE so it's still possible to figure out what's going on. Singed's whole game is "don't step in the poison" which is totally ruined when his poison is invisible.

doiminat0r36001 votes

All of these make you visible. Please go on and show me some more season 4 clips that you happened to find. Then proceed to tell me how it applies in season 6, with proof.

Saianna1 votes

same things happen with:

item 3742 Ekko "clone" Fiddlesticks ultimate if casted in brush Nunu ultimate if casted in brush Nidalee spears if they pass brush Jinx laser poke if it passes trough brush Janna rarely when made in brush

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Overall most skillshots hapen to dissapear if used from brush

doiminat0r36001 votes

Nid's spears dont dissapear. There is a clear visual effect of where it is as long as you have vision of the end/stop point/anywhere in the trail.

Jinx's laser has an indicator that is extremely visible regardless of where she is. If you have vision of the path, you have vision of the bullet.

I used to be a janna main less than 3 months ago. I have never seen it happen once.

It's like saying that ez's Q isnt visible if he casts it while he is in brush. No. You are going to see it.

Snowball, yeah that does happen quite frequently but thats a white object, on a white background, going through white brush, so its gonna be hard to see. Most of the time, it probably isnt even the game. (You can see it very clearly if it doesnt go from brush to brush in the middle of the ARAM map.)

Saianna1 votes

Say whatever you want. I've pointed out the stuff I experienced MYSELF.

Disagree? Sure, go ahead. I don't care.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Pics or it didnt happen. And i said what I said from my experience. Riot even changed skillshots to where they actually show up because Nid's spears didnt show up. You ended up getting chunked for 600 HP from nothing. So they changed it. You can see it now. (this happened ~ last october)

Nilok1 votes

Only Aurelion Sol has the "feature" that his orbs are visible outside a bush without him.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Singed needs it. Simply because his whole game is 'dont step on the poison' and knowing where it is can be a huge advantage.

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