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Mordekaiser rework thoughts.

Mid Nidalee·5/27/2019, 6:14:35 PM·15 votes·17,317 views
Mordekaiser Abilities | League of Legends

Hi, I have been playing Mordekaiser ever since Nidalee became garbage mid lane, (thanks riot us Nidalee players are still waiting or quit).

Recently have been playing ranked again for the first time in years, at Plat 2 with 80% winrate on Mordekaiser over 30 games.

A few thoughts on Mordekaiser that I see problematic.

Passive - Phase rush effect. This will help snowball Top lane Mordekaiser in matchups he is already winning, also I do not see the need for Rylais anymore.

E - 25% Magic Penetration passive. What?? was he too weak in testing so you had to slap this on him to make him playable top lane? Was Riot balance team unsatisfied if they lost the 1v1 with this problematic R and slapped this on to make him win vs tanks?

R - Removing the Ghosts, which was the skill expressive thing about Mordekaiser. I could control a Dragon in bot lane while farming Mid lane, or Pop off in fights with an AD Carry ghost, or get a tank ghost for massive HP in fights where I needed it. Now you have a more busted Camille Ult (without interfering of course). How are the problems with this overlooked in design? Didn't we have issues with balancing Camille and still do?

The other abilities seem to be in the right direction though. I really hope the ultimate gets changed before Mordekaiser hits live. I am not writing him off, will be playing him on PBE and Live before complaining or praising more.

Not gonna lie, REALLY disappointed to lose ghosts.

55 Comments

Z3Sleeper5/27/2019, 7:04:15 PM5 votes

Ghosts were problematic. But I see nothing wrong with this new ultimate.

It doesn't pull the target towards you or anything, you still have to reach them in the first place. This means you need to proc your passive somehow before ulting them.

Also we simply don't have enough information yet on what his damage output/mobility looks like or how dodgeable his E is.

Edit: His E is very dodgeable.

Basically, it's too early to complain about anything other than "aw he lost x ablity", which is fair but it's also fair to say "yay he lost x ability".

Personally as a Yorick main thank god he lost that W that cucked my ghouls.

1v1 me in the Shadow Realm.

Baval5/27/2019, 7:12:57 PM4 votes

Morde was known for 2 things, 6v4 and always shield never die hue hue hue.

He cant do either of them now.

Fail rework.

Thingamajig5/28/2019, 8:00:16 AM3 votes

most of the comments completely misunderstand the OP nature of the ultimate

You go into a team fight at baron/drago you ult the jungler and now you have a 100/0 smite and not a 50/50 You start a team fight against a fed adc/support duo you ult the support and now the carry is free pickings half of the reason they are fed is because of the support half of the survivability and a big chunk of their damage output is gone for 7 seconds You get ganked you ult your laner or the jungler and just smack them 1v1

The rest of his kit is made to make him function as a champion the ultimate is insane in team fight control

Sylas and Morde will be pick ban in pro play one against the other

I think he looks amazing and compared to his version it doesn't seem like a massive power up but a clearer power representation no longer will you get bonked for 1500 no longer will you lose 70% of your health because he clicked you no longer will he get shields out of his ass no longer will he heal for 50% of his health just because he got ganked

Players that understand the current morde are impossible to fight in lane and if they get objective priority the drake ghost is like herald in terms of tower pushing

You think he will be so much stronger than current morde but current morde has insane power it's just very poorly represented and his clunkiness prevents him from being popular

Eyn Sof5/28/2019, 6:43:00 PM2 votes

there should be a traditional mordekaiser skin imo, as u can see, the new model looks totally different now, both in color and details, so a tradiotional mordekaiser would be pretty nice

MetalStaszek5/27/2019, 8:44:42 PM2 votes

I mained morde too Actually, ghost werent my favourite part of his kit - my favourite was 10sec dot Now it will be gone, and we are getting ap Darius Yes, those champs were kinda similiar before, but only skill that really is the same is E moved into Q Yes, old W is back on passive, but that skill was out of game for few years, new one replaced it I am not happy because of this rework - couldnt them just make a new champion, instead of deleting morde and replacing it with champ, that has nothing similiar to his current playstyle? I hope that they will keep ad scaling at least Rip my jg builds

CHAAAAAAAAN5/27/2019, 6:27:40 PM2 votes

There's no way this ultimate can stay on his kit, it's going to cause so many different balance problems. If Mordekaiser is ahead, there is no counterplay to this ultimate. This takes away so much of Morde's potential power budget that I'm beginning to question why would they take away the old R if that's the case? At least against the old R you could run to a healing support, heal via lifesteal, or run back to your base. What I'm saying is that there were options. Like worst comes to worst, a mark that does no damage but brings a ghost to life would be cool.

Another thing, basing in game abillities on lore wanting to be pushed out is by far one of the most problematic things I have seen anyone try to do. At this rate, may as well have Azir or Xerath have instant kill abillities and Sivir do no damage to specific ascendant champions because she's only a mortal. Please, reevaluate this balance nightmare of an old before it gets pushed to live and does far more harm than good.

darkcreaturelord6/13/2019, 6:17:31 AM1 votes

my only issue with mordekaiser now is his fucking r%%%%%ed ass ult, killed me 3 times with it and took my damn s away I'm curious can u just keep running from him as an adc? or it there a certain limit you can go before you ultimately just die?

Edward306/13/2019, 6:16:18 PM1 votes

Can i just put out the fact that Mord w fully charged while even can tank the full combo of a champ like Sylas, does more damage then most mid laners, has more health than most mid laners, and has more sustain than mid laners, can someone please explain to me how to fight him mid lane.

Kintuck6/14/2019, 5:48:42 PM1 votes

Mordekaisers new ultimate is the single most overpowered ultimate in the history of league of legends.

If you disagree, that's because you've never played support.

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Crackz5/29/2019, 11:55:56 PM1 votes

After playing some custom games with bots, I think it feels so smooth, and his Q and E really works together. Like, with the build I used (Rylai, Wits, Morello, Liandry , Rabadon + Sorcs) a EQ+AA was enough to kill Bot Ezreal.{{champion:81}

EDIT: Also I'm pretty sure enemies can see you while you're im Death Realm. You can see some small lights (aka the enemies) and they probably see something similar too cus the bots kept following me inside my ULT then unleashing every ultimate on me after was done xD

Grakator5/30/2019, 1:06:58 PM1 votes

Am I the only one who's sad that Pentakill Mord doesn't have hair anymore?

Raw Dog Mafia6/1/2019, 6:49:44 PM1 votes

I am fine with all of his kit except the passive it deals way to much damage and is percent health based at that. I'm tired of seeing someone go on a morde only for the morde to zhonya and his passive kill the person faster then they can get back out of it. Just change the numbers on that and itd be fine but basing it off hp percentages has always been an overkill that and his kit gives him ap pene built in.

Katsurandom6/8/2019, 9:25:05 PM1 votes

i think the loss of the quest will hurt quite a lot, but since now we can 1 vs 1 in the middle of a TF the enemy adc, it seems like a fair trade off...

I liked more the older mordekaiser, who didn't need anyone else to create the metalic shield and could laugh his ass of on 1 vs 5....do hope this one can do it too again........

Gamesupermaster6/12/2019, 3:18:36 PM1 votes

He is too op... Can't do anything about it, I just get killed. It really isn't fun to play against him.