Fiora might be a problem later on, Riot

Enosetc··3 votes·806 views

There's not much counterplay to exposed vitals when you can't change where the blind spot is by changing the direction you're moving in. It's either "stay out of range of her when she exposes a vital or take a chunk of true damage".

I like "fun little minigame" champions as much as the next guy, but I hope this is on the radar for after she gets buffed or you might have a balance nightmare on your hands.

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BioticBrony4 votes

As a new fiora main I have one thing to say about this. She is vulnerable when she goes in to hit your vitals, sure she can riposte anything you throw at her but that is her only way to keep damage off and win trades without she is heavily vulnerable.

Also new fiora has very little max hp true damage compared to people like vayne. For the first couple minutes she only has around 3% Max Hp true damage since it scales up with her ad making her very item dependent. Thus she has decent poke but is very squishy.

The Fast2 votes

TIL: You can reset the vital's location by stepping away from fiora and coming back into range.

LittleKonqueror1 votes

That is critical. The range of vital appearing is not much at all. Just walk away and reset it. Fiora can't walk after it because minons stack damage if she goes too far and she's squishy.

The Fast1 votes

Or, better yet: pick Garen. She Qs in, she gets silenced and demolished. Repeat.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

you can protect your vital by cuddling with a wall. ive actually had trouble with champions just sitting in a corner, when i ult them, putting 2 vitals completely out of reach.

however i justr scored my first pentakill with her. (also thanks to that nami who set me up for it.)

generally im happy with fiora. the only thing they need to change about her is mana. lategame in an extended teamfight without blue buff, she runs out incredibly fast.

BioticBrony1 votes

Really? Her mana cost are actually really low, I rarely run out of mana during teamfights and laning phase.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Really? Her mana cost are actually really low, I rarely run out of mana during teamfights and laning phase.

i usually aim for 40% cdr. in teamfights im using my spells a lot to dodge and weave around to hit vitals. it can get quite mana intensitive. i usually manage to kill one or 2 people and then im oom.

the problem im seeing is, that there arent many good mana items to fit into a melee adc build. essence reaver could fit pretty well. but youd be sacrificing either a bloodthrister shield or something like hexdrinker/maw in your build. and other than ranged adc, shes absolutely dependent on her spells to carry.

in lane mana isnt a problem at all. honestly, they should just have made her resourceless. that would at least allow her to carry through a teamfight.

i just got a pentakill on her in my last game, but i did grab blue buff before the fight broke out (well, crazy enough that fight was between me + our nami against the entire enemy team). i dont think i would have been able to do that without the additional manaregen.

BioticBrony1 votes

Ah man I envy you, I once got a triple kill by myself against a twitch using my ult, a naut who was low and I believe their midlaner (I don't remember who).

Also what want to know is your build so far with fiora? She is quite a fun champ that I want to learn better at.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Ah man I envy you, I once got a triple kill by myself against a twitch using my ult, a naut who was low and I believe their midlaner (I don't remember who).

Also what want to know is your build so far with fiora? She is quite a fun champ that I want to learn better at.

my build was

item 3074 item 1331 item 3071 item 3072 item 3156 item 1011 that would have ended up as item 3742

with 22 in offense, 8 in defense. i dint think those 3% max health from the 9th point are that important with a melee adc build, and took the feast mastery instead to help me out in lane. might be worthwile thinking about it though.

20 kills 3 deaths throughout that game. the heal and damage were gigantic. i did 1v2 the enemy rammus and jax on multiple oocations, dispatching one with the ult, then fighting the other in the area of the heal. i dont think they quite understood what riposte is capable of now.

CreationFlaw1 votes

I enjoy new Fiora, you actually have to think somewhat about what you're doing instead of QEAAAAQR dead.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

the passive is rather fine...what really lacks counterplay is the save crit on an incredible low cd.

Weiner the Pooh1 votes

It's only one thing that lacks counter play, her entire rest of her kit has counter play so it's ok

LittleKonqueror1 votes

Like many other comments below said, it is pretty easy to abuse the vitals. She can go out of range (which you shouldn't) but you easy exit the range of it. Also CC crushes her. Even riposte deflects them, that's ONLY for like 1 second she ignores them.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Like many other comments below said, it is pretty easy to abuse the vitals. She can go out of range (which you shouldn't) but you easy exit the range of it. Also CC crushes her. Even riposte deflects them, that's ONLY for like 1 second she ignores them.

its actually .75 seconds.

LittleKonqueror1 votes

Close enough lol

Ser Garland1 votes

Why would you get anything mana on Fiora, beyond a tri force? Her mana costs are absurdly low.

SlackerboyTC1 votes

Shes fine imo, shes fairly balanced to me and can still lose matchups like anyone else

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