that fiora nerf is too much.

Weiner the Pooh··3 votes·704 views

its really difficult to proc all four, you'll almost never get the full heal duration.

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Lord Azır2 votes

Or you know throw the ulti on the low hp Soraka dash in and 1 shot her and boom healz for days

TheLastShadow451 votes

Good. She didn't really need that strong of a heal.

Weiner the Pooh2 votes

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Good. She didn't really need that strong of a heal.

but now her ult is useless. its a stupid concept, but now its like fighting with 3 abilities when everyone else gets 4.

Delriel2 votes

As it was if she uses her ult to heal by picking an almost dead champ shes basically trading most of her first half of the ult (free vitals) in exchange of a faster heal.

Riot put that ult so she wasnt as the old fiora aka godlike in duels and garbastic in teamfights unless horribly fed. Since on tfs is almost impossible to proc more than 2 vitals consistently fiora is basically left on a slighty better state on tfs than her prerework in exchange of a much worse dueling power. Before she was one of the melee adc now she has a strong mid and decent late but a far cry from her previous dueling power

People complain about her ult when it has TONS of counterplay to it. You can quicksilver out of it, use zhonias to delay it, move so she doesnt hit the remaining ones amongst many others, not counting running away that on tfs works wonders since EVERYONE will be focusing fiora HARD since she has to trigger it on the middle of the enemy most of the time and those extra seconds will mean that fiora will die before triggering and the ulted person will just have to stay safe until effect ends (8 seconds total). Also a single stun will give enough time to get distance from fiora and blast her apart. Amd i wont even mention how clunky can vitals works sometimes from certain angles or when fiora enters the enemy model.

Honestly if fiora manages to reach someone about to die with no one stopping her the fault relies on the team for bad coordination similar as giving katarina free reset chance then proceeding to stomp most if not all of the team, or that fiora did an ambush and basically outplayed the enemy.

Before the rework she was an excepcional duelist and average teamfighter, if those changes come live she will be a good duelist and once again she will be average on tf since she wont be almost never able to use her current healing power.

Lately her win rate is moving between 50% and 51% which doesnt warrant a nerf despite her niche healing power that can be quite strong on certain circunstances.

Red Ryu1 votes

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As it was if she uses her ult to heal by picking an almost dead champ shes basically trading most of her first half of the ult (free vitals) in exchange of a faster heal.

Riot put that ult so she wasnt as the old fiora aka godlike in duels and garbastic in teamfights unless horribly fed. Since on tfs is almost impossible to proc more than 2 vitals consistently fiora is basically left on a slighty better state on tfs than her prerework in exchange of a much worse dueling power. Before she was one of the melee adc now she has a strong mid and decent late but a far cry from her previous dueling power

People complain about her ult when it has TONS of counterplay to it. You can quicksilver out of it, use zhonias to delay it, move so she doesnt hit the remaining ones amongst many others, not counting running away that on tfs works wonders since EVERYONE will be focusing fiora HARD since she has to trigger it on the middle of the enemy most of the time and those extra seconds will mean that fiora will die before triggering and the ulted person will just have to stay safe until effect ends (8 seconds total). Also a single stun will give enough time to get distance from fiora and blast her apart. Amd i wont even mention how clunky can vitals works sometimes from certain angles or when fiora enters the enemy model.

Honestly if fiora manages to reach someone about to die with no one stopping her the fault relies on the team for bad coordination similar as giving katarina free reset chance then proceeding to stomp most if not all of the team, or that fiora did an ambush and basically outplayed the enemy.

Before the rework she was an excepcional duelist and average teamfighter, if those changes come live she will be a good duelist and once again she will be average on tf since she wont be almost never able to use her current healing power.

Lately her win rate is moving between 50% and 51% which doesnt warrant a nerf despite her niche healing power that can be quite strong on certain circunstances.

She still hits a 76% ban rate in plat+ with a slightly above average playrate.

Not sure I would call her balanced right now given those stats, though it does seem you do need a god amount of experience to hit her higher winrates of 54% with the people who dedicate to her.

Delriel1 votes

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She still hits a 76% ban rate in plat+ with a slightly above average playrate.

Not sure I would call her balanced right now given those stats, though it does seem you do need a god amount of experience to hit her higher winrates of 54% with the people who dedicate to her.

I think that Darius and Fiora has a so high ban rate since they are now both quite popular and their mechanics can punish enemies hard for their mistakes.

Bonipherus1 votes

Well the best strategy of her ult, as it is currently, is to just ult someone who is just about to die and get a free team heal.

Weiner the Pooh1 votes

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Well the best strategy of her ult, as it is currently, is to just ult someone who is just about to die and get a free team heal.

Yes but now it's like she barely even has an ult because good luck procing more than two in a team fight. This could have been avoided if riot gave her a fighter ultimate because she's a fucking fighter not a god damn support, I swear riot doesn't think anything they.

Bonipherus2 votes

It was designed to be a highly difficult yet highly rewarded skill that the whole team should actively focus to pull off. When Fiora ults someone you should help fiora to hit as many weak spots as possible and while the other team tries to prevent the same. The ult is far, far better designed than the last one and brings utility and counterplay to an otherwise linear champion. Having a team heal does not make her a support nor does it invalidate her as a fighter.

WalkingInACircle1 votes

She needs a nerf to her mana costs/cooldowns on her dash.

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