Did Support Mages Really Deserve This?

Witch of Babylon·Jun 13, 2016·1 votes·395 views

All support mage damages that were nerfed.

Lulu - 560 (1.3 AP) magic damage -> 460 (.9 AP) magic damage, not including passive

Nami - 1,130 (2.45 AP) magic damage and 312 attack damage -> 1,130 (2.2 AP) magic damage and 312 attack damage

Soraka - 805 (1.325 AP) magic damage -> 690 (1.15 AP) magic damage

Janna - 620 (1.55 AP) magic damage -> 545 (1.15 AP) magic damage, not including extra attack damage from shield

Zilean - 640 (1.8 AP) magic damage -> 600 (1.6 AP) magic damage

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7 Comments

I am PacmanJun 13, 20162 votes

Dude the game has changed over the years, things need to be rebalanced. I'm sure all of those can be explained with context. Hell that lulu nerf is from her time as a mid/top laner showing us that when lulu has good ap ratios (good enough to get out of support) then she is oppressive as fuck top or mid lane.

Jannas ap ratios really dont matter (especially since you only used dmg and excluded her shield ratio) and she needed those nerfs a while ago. Remember when janna was pick or ban?

Most of these aren't even huge nerfs considering they hardly build that much ap anyways. Lulus 0.4 nerf is deserving. Nami 0.25 isn't that bad and probably has some context. Raka got nerfed when heal reduction got nerfed and she still managed to be pick or ban for a while. Zilean is 0.2, thats basically nothing to a support. If you build ap his bombs still hit like a truck and if you don't then he still has so much utility.

Knight SkyJun 13, 20161 votes

Karma got a boost at least lol

z63XnLCMwXJun 13, 20161 votes

You want utility champion to do damage?

ÇhåryzårdJun 13, 20161 votes

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You want utility champion to do damage?

While Lulu and Nami both have a good amount of utility I see them as more of a mix of utility and poke...to be honest, neither of them really needed to be touched...

Witch of BabylonJun 13, 20161 votes

I feel like support mages damages were kind of nerfed too hard. It's the reason I made this thread to inform you.

I am PacmanJun 13, 20161 votes

Every single one of those champs is not picked for damage. They all have amazing utility and as a result should have less damage. And where did these numbers come from? Are they since last season? beginning of the game? next patch? because there are some big differences between those.

Witch of BabylonJun 13, 20161 votes

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Every single one of those champs is not picked for damage. They all have amazing utility and as a result should have less damage. And where did these numbers come from? Are they since last season? beginning of the game? next patch? because there are some big differences between those.

what they used to be -> what they are now