Please allow at least 1 dodge per promos

8 Lamar Jackson·11/11/2019, 7:03:14 PM·11 votes·6,076 views

Just had a game where I wanted to dodge the all ad team where 2 mates were on long losing streaks. Couldnt so forced to play..only to lose as i thought i would from the jump. Riot, you give free wins if we lose our first promo attempts, or derank. Can you find it in your hearts to give a free dodge? Not a free W, but just if we dodge 1 or 2 times we dont auto lose promos. Just make it to where the lp is negative once we are done with promos if anything. Thanks.

20 Comments

Inkling Commando11/11/2019, 7:26:50 PM5 votes

again with the fucking dodging. quit complaining about team comp and play the fucking game. dodging is not only not a viable strategy like most players claim but it is completely disrespectful to the other 9 players. even if there is a "troll pick" there are still 8 other players and if you dodge you're only doing the trolls job for them. there is a reason why you are penalized for dodging and to be honest the penalties need to be harsher. it is because the penalties are so light that players would rather dodge because they'd rather take the -3 LP and 5 minute dodging timer than losing -30 LP in a lost game because of a troll. dodging will never be condoned or encourage by riot. so just stop asking for free dodges. it will never, ever, happen.

P0IS0N IVY11/12/2019, 5:10:03 AM3 votes

Better suggestion: get rid of promos. Allow people to stay at 0 LP until they lose X games and then bump their LP and rank down to what it should be had the soft floor not been there.

EVEN BETTER SUGGESTION: Get rid of this stupid system and let us just see our MMR since that's what is used for matchmaking anyway. It's dumb for me to have to beat people in ranks above me into order to get into a rank BELOW them.

Charlie Loves U11/12/2019, 9:23:27 AM2 votes

honestly I don't want dodges for promos. I want there to not be promos. its an archaic system that only serves to gate keep you and your luck around your promotion. The only promos should be for tiers. Diamond, Plat, etc because you get shielded once you get to a new tier. but having to do promos for 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 is just dumb. there shouldnt even be a tier gold 1 -4. it should just be 0-400 LP then promos once you get to 400 LP.

promos can quite literally stunt your progress and make you have to grind more games. the amount of times ive had huge winning streaks to get into promos then run into two games that are pretty much unwinnable is unbelievable. sure it doesn't affect where you will ultimately end up, but it FEELS terrible. its so frustrating to have to grind more because of an outdated system.

Tenarin12/3/2019, 1:05:22 AM2 votes

It would be pointless. I used to dodge promos because they were so rigged I didn't want to risk repeating them. They rig them more if you have low mmr too. So for example if you somehow climb your way up to plat 4 promos but your mmr is like gold 4 (difficult to do but just using for example) your promos will be a stomp. You could be a pro player and probably lose that game. Before people freak out, yes pro's lose games too even while climbing, like 30% - 40% of games so don't start wigging out because you think they win everything. So anyway I used to dodge promos. All of them. When you dodge promos you keep your mmr (unless they changed something in the last couple of years) and just lose a few lp and don't get promoted. So I would get my mmr to where it's way above, and THEN when I did promos, I would skip a division.

This is actually pretty brilliant because anyone who both understands programming / algorithms and plays a lot of league knows that most games are a bit one sided, and I will tell you right now i'm 100% sure promo games have a higher probability to put you on the bad side. Some people will try to argue with this but the things I have seen in promo games...I know it for fact. Also I got an ezreal for every promo game on this account, and like maybe 1 or 2 ezreals in non promos and that's in over 100 games. IDK why this is...I haven't seen the algorithm with my own eyes but I can tell you right now promos are more likely to be hard, than to be easy, when compared to non-promo games.

TLDR / conclusion: So basically if you want to deal with promos less, try dodging them a couple rounds. Then skip a division or get free wins toward next promos (which means less promo games). You really don't lose anything because mmr stays where it was and LP means nothing over the span of many n games.

I know while typing this that the smart people will see the genius in this, and non-programmers who don't understand how all this works are going to lose their minds and try to argue.

Fella Air11/12/2019, 12:21:40 AM1 votes

I think they should raise the time penalty for dodging but remove the LP penalty. And if they find that people are just queuing up to dodge as often as possible in order to troll people, there should be a system implemented that bans those people. It wouldn't be hard to detect at all.

Baby Ghoul11/12/2019, 4:16:11 AM1 votes

I've stopped dodging.

There's too many low ELO Akali and Gangplank players going into unfavorable matchups when the team needs something else. I've just started praying that they're smurfs, and it's end of season, so sometimes they actually are.