I feel like when they get supported right click AA champions have no counter.

GigglesO·Nov 1, 2017·4 votes·426 views

You can't kite them, because they are designed to be anti-kite or are the champs that kite. Nuke is a thing of past seasons. Tanking is laughable on anyone but the god tanks when you die in 2-3 seconds. You can't out right click them, because that is their whole kit design, and they have GA to revive them, with lifesteal to keep them topped off on hp...

This isn't just a complaint about marksmen either, this extends out to champions like yi, and kayle as well as our adc (marksmen) roster.

Thoughts?

Btw, 200-300 armor means nothing to these guys, because you can't damage them beack through lifesteal, even with thornmail.

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ModWulf HelhammerNov 1, 20173 votes

Btw, 200-300 armor means nothing to these guys, because you can't damage them beack through lifesteal, even with thornmail.

You realize that you the person with 200-300 armor aren't the one who's supposed to be damaging the DPS carry right? In fact, you are the one they are designed to kill. Your job is to CC them in place for your carries, or to peel off enemy divers from getting to your carries.

ZerenzaNov 1, 20171 votes

This, or help catch them out for your Assassins and Burst Mages.

GigglesONov 1, 20172 votes

That is not always how this game has been designed though. Because it used to be that you could build dps on any champ or, you could build tank on any champ. S1 had adc's that could build 2-3 defense items and still be viable lategame carries. Now its full damage or gtfo, there really is no reason to have it that way except to speed up games.

KS King KenchNov 1, 20171 votes

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That is not always how this game has been designed though. Because it used to be that you could build dps on any champ or, you could build tank on any champ. S1 had adc's that could build 2-3 defense items and still be viable lategame carries. Now its full damage or gtfo, there really is no reason to have it that way except to speed up games.

well tbh think of it in riots perspective... they have servers that players need to be able to play.... but if they are all taken up w/ games that are lasting an hour to an hour and a half then thats players getting mad cause they cant find a game.... not to mention touchfluffytail is right of course things have changed since first season new things were added and next tuesday itll change again.... who knows where itll go from there...

MiantaNov 1, 20171 votes

So, in reality, you just want to say "screw classes, let anyone build any way". Well that isn't happening no matter how much you rant about feeling helpless.

If you don't want to be squishy like an ADC, then play a tank. If you don't enjoy being a team player and supporting your team with CC, then play a fighter or diver. Either way, you're never going to be content because you dont have the right mindset with this game. Its extremely simple and obvious how to counter opponents like yi and items like lifesteal. For instance: ignite, and/ or morellos for AP and grievious wounds for AD. Crowd control works really well too! Armor isn't the only option available.

The upcoming season update with the runes/ masteries will give you much more options for how you want to play. So just be patient and see where riot takes us.

GigglesONov 1, 20171 votes

That is not what its about, there were still clear strengths and weaknesses between the classes. Now we don't have very clear strengths or weaknesses. All of the classes feel like you are trying to play a game of can I knock you out in one punch. Even the "tanks" feel that way.

MiantaNov 1, 20171 votes

I dont understand.. ive never felt that way playing anyone except assassins and shyvana, and im mastery level 7 on 11 champs, level 7 on 9, etc. I would disagree about the clear strengths and weaknesses, too. People just die faster than they used to, i think. Also, teamwork is much more important than it was in the past for the sole reason that everyone has such defined strengths & weakness. ADCs NEED peel, assassins make themselves extremely vulnerable to CC, etc etc. There are definitely some balancing issues among champs though.

JustMonika13Nov 1, 20171 votes

Man I love being a filthy Yasuo main and not having to constantly bitch about the marksmen running around... usually.

GigglesONov 1, 20171 votes

Yea, but this thread is also sort of pointed at yasuo. He can be so infuriating to play against, because when he does get supported he just right click you to death, while you stand there not being able to retaliate.