Wow Assassin mains are petty

GigglesO·Jan 16, 2019·77 votes·20,018 views

Didn't instantly kill an enemy.

"Fuck you for playing a champion that can stand there and takes no skill"

Umm you can push a button and instantly be out of my range so I can't damage you.

"You're a bull shit champ that you just took no damage"

Buddy you are just angry that you didn't instantly delete me by pressing 4 buttons and that I got my 3rd q, w,e,Ulti and ignite on you.

True Story. Its not that hard to stay out of mordes range where he can't damage you or generate a shield.

137 Comments

Hayaishi2Jan 17, 201980 votes

Assassin mains are spoiled because they get to bully squishies with no counterplay.

Nothing more satisfying than destroying that broken ass class with a bruiser.

Sewer SideJan 17, 201928 votes

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Assassin mains are spoiled because they get to bully squishies with no counterplay.

Nothing more satisfying than destroying that broken ass class with a bruiser.

“Nothing better beating one broken ass class with another broken ass class”

Hayaishi2Jan 17, 201919 votes

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“Nothing better beating one broken ass class with another broken ass class”

3 fighters being broken =/= the whole class.

Death by GlamourJan 17, 20194 votes

only 3? :D

Fízz v2Jan 17, 20196 votes

Implying most assassins are broken at all or even viable xd

DedenneJan 17, 201913 votes

Which assassin isnt viable?

Abibyama IIJan 17, 20197 votes

Any assassin not named LeBlanc or Talon

ZerenzaJan 17, 201911 votes

As an assassin main, most assassins are viable. Evelynn, Diana, Katarina, Zed, Kha'Zix, Pyke and Nocturn are all perfectly viable. For Kat and Zed they take a bit more skill but for all of these champions, put a bit of time into them and your looking at a 50-55% win rate scaling up with champion experience.

Non viable assassins are as follows. Fizz, Ekko, Akali, Kayn(blue form is often not preffered) and Rengar and with all of them your skill can make up for a lot of their win rates.

The thing I find the most interesting is that 55% of the assassin class is AP but people only complain about the AD ones.

Emo TwinkJan 17, 20199 votes

Probably because the burst that comes from duskblade and electrocute while missing a lot of abilities is way more noticable than smth an AP assassin does (which still is oneshotting but at least seems like theres a little more counterplay).

Unemployed NinjaJan 17, 20199 votes

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Probably because the burst that comes from duskblade and electrocute while missing a lot of abilities is way more noticable than smth an AP assassin does (which still is oneshotting but at least seems like theres a little more counterplay).

This is why I miss DFG

Flawless FetusJan 17, 20192 votes

Yup the ad assassins are, usually, substantially weaker than they're ap counterparts. Lol. People just don't like duskblade.

ZerenzaJan 17, 20192 votes

I think in terms of Burst, most AP assassins fall short to AD ones(Evelynn, Fizz and Leblance being the ones that don't.) since Duskblade is so powerful on every AD assassin. Though AP's offer more utility to the team usually and also tend to scale better into late game due in part to Rabadon's Deathcap.

AirKingNeoJan 17, 20192 votes

Zed, Talon, Ekko, Rengar, Kha'zix in high elo, literally all of them.

Leblanc isn't an assassin. She's a mage.

shockprimexJan 18, 20193 votes

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Leblanc isn't an assassin. She's a mage.

wanna bet?

HA I am Shaco HAJan 17, 20194 votes

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Assassin mains are spoiled because they get to bully squishies with no counterplay.

Nothing more satisfying than destroying that broken ass class with a bruiser.

Aren't assassins supposed to be bullies to squishy champs and punishing them for positioning badly. I know people won't agree with how MUCH damage they do to them with like the hit of 2 spells but it's how riot wants assassins to function. They've made assassins these champions that if they don't do damage, they are useless because they get killed before they "assassinate" and do their job. Even something like, let's say changing Shaco's stealth to a 0 radius camouflage, people would see the champions winrate dropping to about 47% because without his invisibility, you can kill him a lot easier because control wards placed in teamfights would counter him hard, as well as the fact his kit does no damage and has to use items like Dusk and Tri-force to one shot from stealth. Overall what im saying is that assassins either do damage to do their job or don't do damage and fail at their job, and it's a hard thing to balance when it comes to assassins because squishy players don't like being one shot, but bear in mind, assassins can be one shot too.

Zeppelins circusJan 17, 201939 votes

But lets be honest here. Mordekaiser is hardly "balanced" in a good way or a bad way.

...Even his pixels for his feet graphics.

GigglesOJan 17, 20198 votes

Ehh I mean he isn't that bad to fight. He gets dragon/adc ghost and thats about it...

Zeppelins circusJan 17, 201918 votes

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Ehh I mean he isn't that bad to fight. He gets dragon/adc ghost and thats about it...

So one of the major parts that was criticized when mordekaiser was reworked is because "he has no skill expression and is RNG". No seriously. There is pretty much no predicting how much damage he would deal with his Qs because of his build flexibility, and his shield amount constantly changes, while he himself is reliant if the enemy would let him hit them. Even the drake part is RNG to a point that it is not a constant performance. And that is excluding the ridiculous bugs he was that he produces on a daily bases that makes it worse.

A toolkit that cannot be measured, and is confusing to both parties involved is just a "wtf" really.

IcyPepperJan 17, 201916 votes

There is pretty much no predicting how much damage he would deal with his Qs because of his build flexibility,

because of his build flexibility

You can... look at what he's building to predict his damage?

Zeppelins circusJan 17, 20196 votes

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Um

You can... look at what he's building to predict his damage?

So, could you tell what sort of damage are we to expect if he buys a trinity force, stereks, crystal sceptre. Compared to full ap? Or bruiser? And then conjoin that with his 3 hit Q's which ratios are totally seperate, which may or might not hit, with his DoT spells.

It impossible to tell how much damage he is going to exactly dish out.

GigglesOJan 17, 20192 votes

so full ap and the trinity stereks is about the same damage. His last q will do 1k to about anything.

Bruiser will be lower about 550-600

his E and W are negligable damage sources.

His R is base % hp does more if he has ap.

Zeppelins circusJan 17, 20194 votes

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so full ap and the trinity stereks is about the same damage. His last q will do 1k to about anything.

Bruiser will be lower about 550-600

his E and W are negligable damage sources.

His R is base % hp does more if he has ap.

Have you read that yourself before you posted it. Its a huge jumble of "about", "if he has", "may or may not be useful". To put it simply. even you don't know even though you main Mord. (To put it worse, you are our most reliable source of information to this.)

...See what I'm talking about here? So, basically your enemy Leblanc said, "Idk what you did there", while you yourself had no clue. This is bullocks regarding we are playing a form of "RTS" here lol

WAZZZUP500Jan 17, 20198 votes

first off you don't know what rng is. rng is a random chance. Morde's damage isn't random. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Not knowing what a champ can do doesn't make them broken. You not knowing how to play against them does not make them broken

I am about 100% sure you aren't sitting there, calculator in hand, precisely calculating the exact damage your enemy will do. It's easy enough to use past experience to judge how much damage they can do.

Basically, if you're ignorant, that's not your enemy's fault.

P.S.: Not knowing the exact #s doesn't mean you didn't know what you did. OP knew hat he pressed q and hit the third hit, and although he didn't know exact numbers, he could estimate that he had enough damage to kill the leblanc.

MarshbouyJan 17, 201924 votes

"just don't fight them" never was counterplay and never will be.

DragonSheaJan 17, 20195 votes

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"just don't fight them" never was counterplay and never will be.

True, all it does is give them an excuse to continue pushing, taking towers and getting baron.

MarshbouyJan 17, 20192 votes

^^^^^

you have to fight them at some point or else they can take everything in the game without any real issue. There are reasons why shit like "no champ damage tryndamere" is really stupid.

oortoomeebreesuuJan 17, 201914 votes

People who play Zed and LeBlanc honestly do the most stupid shit. They're so used to playing with - what is essentially - no risk. LB and Zed just teleport back whenever they want to all in, no skill no danger, so these players get into the habit of disrespecting at every opportunity because it works against most.

deadlychuckJan 17, 201910 votes

Assassins, and anyone who abuses their itemization, are fundamentally non-interactive and riot can't seem to get it through their thick skulls...

At least, when people played fighters like "assassins", before assassins were getting supported as a class, then they were at least actually high risk, since they had to fully commit any time they tried to "assassinate" a target, but the tailor made assassins that riot puts out literally take that one weakness of the fantasy and throw it out...

Dr DogJan 17, 20199 votes

i dont think anyone playing leblanc can talk about lack of skill

Spooky SkeletonJan 17, 20196 votes

Morde is my go to metal boi for dealing with assassins. It's like their brains just simply cannot comprehend why you dont die. They Just keep throwing themselves at you expecting different results. Best part is when they die 4 times in 6 minutes and then call their jungler for help trying to 2v1 you, but the jungler is also a r%%%%%ed assassin who doesnt know what the fuck your champ does.

Or when they try and fight your dragon ghost and die, then QQ in all chat

Akali is SO HOTJan 17, 20196 votes

I usually see it the other way around. Zed or Leblanc kills an ADC and then they flame in chat about how cancer they are. Kinda like most of boards when they talk about assassins.

JackMcSnipeyzJan 17, 20195 votes

Morde/jugg mains circle jerking against assassin mains.. Ahhh the boards

GigglesOJan 17, 20193 votes

Morde Mains? You mean like 1% of the 1% that plays him?

1 mill+ mastery or bust

I also don't get your jungle main comment. Khazix Rengar Kayn

JackMcSnipeyzJan 17, 20194 votes

You're right, no one ever plays morde in game. However i wasnt talking about in game, i was talking about the boards.

Also i didnt say anything about jungle...? You mean jugg? I meant juggernauts

GigglesOJan 17, 20192 votes

read that with an N in it. My bad.

14daysuspensionkJan 17, 20194 votes

Man, you haven't seen a wild ADC main, have you?

ThefrostyvikingJan 17, 20195 votes

Generally the "high skill&outplay" clientele all act the same, so a Vayne main and a Zed main or a LB one can act quite similarly when tilted, similarly how to a say a Fiora/Riven/jax might.

All those are infamous for tilting easily.

But try to find a tilting i dare ya, i double dare ya. '

....I mean aside from one building full on defensive because they keep exploding, that....has happened.

14daysuspensionkJan 17, 20193 votes

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Generally the "high skill&outplay" clientele all act the same, so a Vayne main and a Zed main or a LB one can act quite similarly when tilted, similarly how to a say a Fiora/Riven/jax might.

All those are infamous for tilting easily.

But try to find a tilting i dare ya, i double dare ya. '

....I mean aside from one building full on defensive because they keep exploding, that....has happened.

Bitch try to find a toxic Braum main.

ThefrostyvikingJan 17, 20194 votes

All the "LcsBigPlays" champs have some toxic players on their list :P

But truthfully i havent actually seen a true braum main in ages, just a few scattered people who i think wanted freelo without properly knowing how to play him at the time x)

ZackTheWaffleManJan 17, 20192 votes

or a toxic Taric

or Ivern

Packun FlowerJan 18, 20194 votes

Assassin main are living the dream in the midlane right now, that class has completely pushed mages out of viability and its disgusting as fuck. Every rift game I play I am always matched up against an assassin, i honestly can't even remember the last time is aw an actual mage go mid lane except the champion I'm playing.

AndevarJan 18, 20193 votes

What? Turret plating makes it kinda bad to play as an Assassin in this meta, especially when staying in lane is more beneficial than roaming.

DyonusJan 18, 20193 votes

Are you kidding ?

Assassins are picked almost every game in low elo because they are fun, can exploit the enemy mistakes and because low elo players just have no idea what to do against them. In high elo mages have the highest presence in the mid lane.

Zeppelins circusJan 18, 20192 votes

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Are you kidding ?

Assassins are picked almost every game in low elo because they are fun, can exploit the enemy mistakes and because low elo players just have no idea what to do against them. In high elo mages have the highest presence in the mid lane.

Yeah, almost always mages with extreme control abilities has been god tier since the inception of this game. On the other hand, assassins in low elo are picked because when squishy carries are picked by the multitude. Like Yasuo or yi in a constant basis. Their picks will help you snowball. And I think some ancient chinese strategist said, "use your enemy and win more easily" or something near to that. And it damn works.

General MattyJan 17, 20193 votes

Does Morde still have that bug where he can get a Jhin ghost with infinite fourth shots?

WAZZZUP500Jan 17, 20193 votes

yeah, but it almost never happens.

General MattyJan 17, 20191 votes

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yeah, but it almost never happens.

I mean its still stupid when it does happen though.

WAZZZUP500Jan 17, 20193 votes

yeah but i guess it makes up for the lack of abilities and attack speed.

MorgManBasherJan 17, 20193 votes

That lane heavily favors leblanc, so funny she is crying.

She just doesn't understand Morde's kit, probably. Also probably a bad leblanc that relies on insta gibs in laning phase.

ZeroBlinkJan 17, 20193 votes

I hate when LB is strong , some champs you can outplay fair and sauqre. Fighting Leblanc if you're off flash cool-down , there's nothing you can do, unless she fatfingers her combo.