Kog'maw needs a little bit of love in terms of mana

DR4G0NW0LF·Jan 24, 2016·5 votes·758 views

Since the marksman rework, kog'maw's mana issues have skyrocketed, mainly due to adding a mana cost to his w. While 40 mana isn't much, with the amount he uses w, it adds up quickly. I think that kog is actually in a fairly good spot in terms of balance, I just think he needs a little help with his mana. Maybe make w cost 20 mana at all levels, or increase his total mana at level one, or reduce the cost of his e, since 80 mana hurts for something that is mainly used for zoning/kiting, not damaging. When I play him, I always seem to be out of mana, and that's without even using ult more than once.

Added: I thought of a way to change his ult while I was responding to a comment below, that might solve his mana issue as well as fit his identity better.

Living Artillery 50 mana at all ranks (maybe 70/50/30 if his early game needs the restriction). Stores charges (3 max) with a 7(?) second cooldown between shots, with 45/35/25 seconds to generate a charge.

Range unchanged, AoE size unchanged

50/100/150(+0.1AD)(+0.2AP) on impact. Leaves behind a growing AoE (similar to Cassiopeia miasma) for 5 seconds. Enemies that enter the pool take DoT(unsure of the numbers here) as long as the pool exists.

7 Comments

RoodToobJan 24, 20161 votes

I jungle Kog'Maw, problem solved. extremely potent with item 3931 item 3124 item 3153 item 3009 item 3085 item 3091 and full ats speed marks quints and few glyphs as long as not against a lee, you do well, you're even strong early if you start drugs due to not being low

Shrek LuigiJan 24, 20161 votes

Kog needs a proper rework that suits his identity as a siege-comp marksman. As it stands, just about any combination of ADC+Support can shut down his farm and make him obsolete come lategame.

Seriously, Kog resembles an artillery weapon a lot less than he does a fire hose. He just sprays people and prays they drop before they close the gap and 1shot him---very underwhelming.

DR4G0NW0LFJan 26, 20161 votes

I don't feel the same about kog, at least not the underwhelming part. Once I get items, I can melt the tanks away. The only issue i have is how restricting his mana pool is. I feel that if kog had a better mana pool, he could siege effectively as he is now. You have to remember that in a proper team comp, your job is to stay in the back and get rid of the front liners, which after 3 items, kog excels in doing.

If u want to talk in a thematic perspective, kog is artillery-esque, but he doesn't fire these super powerful shells, he fires acid, and if his body is capable of generating it quickly, he can spray it all over his enemies, which is what he is doing right now, he just happens to be capable of doing it at a long range. If anything his ult should do a small amount of impact damage and have a mechanic that leaves an AoE in the target area that inflicts DoT to any one who enters for the duration of the AoE, since he fires living organisms at his target that eat away at anything they touch.

Utility VeigarJan 24, 20161 votes

They should revert his ult mana cost back to 40 per continuous cast and for the love of god reduce the mana cost on his e.

130 mana level 5 e.

Shadowteen20Feb 2, 20161 votes

While I do find his mana problems annoying, I think it shouldn't be changed. Here is why. This makes landing his q more pivotal to trade in early games, It makes his all-in more risk for reward, and lastly, It prevents his Ult from being much more spammable, but more rewarding for waiting just a bit longer so that you can get execution damage. Think about it.

~Shadow

DR4G0NW0LFFeb 8, 20161 votes

I agree, his current mana costs make his abilities mean something when u cast them. His mana pool is close to where it needs to be, but I don't feel that it's perfect. He shouldn't be running out of mana in mid way through any team fight lasting more than 10 seconds.

Shadowteen20Feb 8, 20161 votes

I think instead, they could buff his AP Kog style a bit. That way, mana items for AP users are doing enough, but the amount of mana for AD users is still pivotal. That or they give him like +1.0 mana regen.