PSA for Rengar players

Bârd·Oct 14, 2015·71 votes·3,039 views

If you are feeding, go tank.

"But I will do nothing if I go tank"

You are already doing nothing, at least this way you will do nothing for a few seconds longer.

57 Comments

TurquoiseYoshiOct 14, 201516 votes

That's not just for Rengar. That's for basically every non-ADC.

idokiOct 15, 20151 votes

You mean starting to build item 3078 at 25 minutes when I'm 0/7/2 is wrong? whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

LuggOct 14, 20159 votes

https://media.giphy.com/media/DdDeUk0sGATFS/giphy.gif

Malix FarwinOct 14, 20159 votes

If you are feeding on rengar, why are you playing rengar.

BudupopsOct 15, 20151 votes

Mecha MaIphiteOct 14, 20156 votes

Rengar item 3742 huehuehue

PePsiLemoNNOct 15, 20155 votes

Or , if they play decent and just have a bad game , they could farm till late game ( his spells damage scale with level ) and you could try NOT TO FIGHT 4V5.

Vicarious117Oct 15, 20155 votes

Yeah I've been playing tank Rengar for a long time now, just cause I prefer that playstyle over the much easier one shot combo version.

I was told something cool by a teammate in a match a couple days ago that was really flattering and I think makes a lot of sense. They said:

"You know a Rengar main is actually a good Rengar player and not just cheesing his way through ELO when he can successfully play him as a tank."

It made me feel good, getting recognized as a skilled Rengar player and not just being constantly bombarded by "noob champ" comments from the enemy team the whole game. So yeah I encourage all Rengar players who consider themselves Rengar mains but never play him as tank to actually deliberately build him tank and play as the initiator/backline diving bruiser for a while. You'll understand much more about him and not just the easy one shot combo, and it will in turn make you even better as an assassin as well, because without a doubt playing Rengar as a tank is much more difficult then as an assassin, and you'll truly understand why LCS shoutcasters constantly refer to him as a "difficult champ," cause honestly as an assassin you almost never really see it.

Sahn UzalOct 15, 20153 votes

I'm a Rengar main, I learned him by playing him as a bruiser. I might go back there some time soon...

originary91Oct 16, 20151 votes

This thread is a gathering of ignorance. People who know nothing trying to comment on something as if they're actually expert mains. Pls. And to the guy who thinks that 'Tank Rengar' is more skill full than Full Damage Rengar, like lol wut? Are you implying that tanks are more skilful than squishes? That Champion builds that are resilient and therefore can get away with fucking up are more skilful than champion builds that are glass, and have to pull everything off PERFECTLY to get things done properly and not fall flat on their face? WAT? Are you implying that guys like Dekar and Akaadian are inferior because they play full damage Rengar? Wat? Check yourself.

If you're behind you build MORE damage as an Assassin so that you can try and TURN things around and get AHEAD. You don't just resign yourself to a state of inferiority and build TANKY when building TANKY will put you in a state that isn't OPTIMAL and won't allow you to COMEBACK. The amount of times that I've had some idiot tell me to build tanky because I wasn't doing so hot, only for me to turn things around and carry their ignorant asses is just lowhgjwiehwut. Do not presume to be knowledgeable about things that you know NOTHING about. Do not offer advice that is infact counterproductive.

Building Tank Rengar isn't optimal. If you disagree ask Nightblue3, the guy who used to SWEAR BY IT, until Akaadian dunked him on stream over, and over again and over again, and completely turned around a bad game. Oh yeah, pretty sure Akaadian died like 3 times in his jungle that game pre-10 mins, didn't build tank doe.

Outside of that, that Cinderhulk build does look quite interesting, I think I'll try it out sometime.

Sahn UzalOct 19, 20151 votes

I don't anyone here is trying to say tank Rengar is optimal. People are stating tank Rengar is harder to play, imstead of just doing one combo, you'll propably need to use the bush passive a few times to get a kill. I also agreed on building damage when behind.

DreadlocksOct 14, 20154 votes

Lol, as a rengar main, i approve. :) +1

For CarthageOct 15, 20154 votes

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MLDzXnRRROct 15, 20154 votes

AP cat is the real deal: item 3117 item 3100 item 3285 item 3157 item 3089 item 3116 You have to W twice and half the enemy team is dead, but your early game is trash.

Hyrum GraffOct 15, 20151 votes

{quoted}

AP cat is the real deal: You have to W twice and half the enemy team is dead, but your early game is trash.

I played with an AP runeglaive rengar top on the PBE back when runeglaive procced ludens. Numbers approximate from memory,

He went 1-9 in the first 20 minutes of the game.

He ended that 30 minute game 25-11. It was ridiculous, 1shotting squishies left and right.

pE4CbxDPQOOct 15, 20153 votes

Pretty retarded idea. Just move into farming and warding. Rengar is purely for deleting the adcarry, running out and then going back in once the rest are low enough.

BârdOct 15, 201519 votes

if you are 0/7/2, and your inventory looks like this at 27 minutes item 3707 item 3117 item 3077 item 1053
It is safe to say that you wont be doing damage, and you most certainly wont be living long in a teamfight. item 3047 item 3742 / item 3111 item 3065 You deal about as much damage, mostly using your W durability and E utility to succeed, and HEY LOOK YOU ARENT DEAD YET

BudupopsOct 15, 20153 votes

if u r building warrior enchant u need to uninstall, bottom line.

FistOfSharkieshaOct 15, 201515 votes

Is this a joke? It's one of the most gold efficient AD items in the game.

Vicarious117Oct 15, 201511 votes

Rengar wannabes don't understand this, they see the mobafire guides where you skip it for the items with actives that are part of his easy one shot combo and assume that's the only way to do it, not realizing how little they actually know about Rengar and itemization in general.

Rufus CrabmiserOct 15, 20153 votes

you dont have to build it in any situation to be honest.

idokiOct 15, 20152 votes

Being a sheep and not buying it because Nightblue doesn't is just stupid. High level players know how to play around their build's powerspike, sheep don't.

Rufus CrabmiserOct 15, 20152 votes

im pretty sure i know how to play rengar

idokiOct 15, 20151 votes

It wasn't directed at you, but at people with no itemization understanding. Sorry if it offended you

darkmatchwaldoOct 15, 20152 votes

what do you suggest instead? afk farming devourer and doing nothing for 20 minutes?

BudupopsOct 15, 20151 votes

if you build devourer u really need to unisntall

TurquoiseYoshiOct 15, 20152 votes

So...... you build Runeglaive on him?

Rufus CrabmiserOct 15, 20154 votes

ap rengar does work

BudupopsOct 15, 20151 votes

sigh. this is why i cant take boards seriously

TurquoiseYoshiOct 16, 20152 votes

Well, you said both Warrior and Devourer were not choices, and Cinderhulk on an assassin is dumb, so I'm guessing you picked Runeglaive.

BudupopsOct 16, 20151 votes

the problem with the community is the knowloedge gap

TurquoiseYoshiOct 16, 20151 votes

And what does that have to do with the lack of logical jungle items you picked for Rengo?

BârdOct 16, 20152 votes

Yes.

AP rengar is the best thing ever to grace league of legends, and do not let anyone tell you otherwise. You should go try it in solo queue right now.

TurquoiseYoshiOct 16, 20151 votes

And then I'll try Mid Olaf and ADC Kennen.

pE4CbxDPQOOct 15, 20154 votes

[{quoted}](name=The True Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TanxNW7b,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2015-10-15T01:46:09.158+0000)

if you are 0/7/2, and your inventory looks like this at 27 minutes

Then you are bad. No reason to go on. Switching to tank wont make you not bad.

Auz the RipperOct 15, 201510 votes

It'll make you mildly useful to your team though

Sozan5Oct 15, 20152 votes

It will make you a meat shield. Gives your team more time to actually do something. It's not about making Rengar who's behind good - it's about making him less bad and easier to carry by his team.

This is true for nearly every champion in the League.

Chaotic ReksOct 15, 20151 votes

but it will make you less bad

InphernalOct 15, 20156 votes

[{quoted}](name=The True Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TanxNW7b,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2015-10-15T01:46:09.158+0000)

if you are 0/7/2, and your inventory looks like this at 27 minutes
It is safe to say that you wont be doing damage, and you most certainly wont be living long in a teamfight. / You deal about as much damage, mostly using your W durability and E utility to succeed, and HEY LOOK YOU ARENT DEAD YET

If their build looks like that by 27 minutes, what makes you think they have the gold to buy all of the fancy tank items you suggested? I'd rather finish my Ravenous Hydra instead of clogging my inventory space with cloth armor and ruby crystals and still have my tiamat

BârdOct 16, 20152 votes

item 3077 + item 1053 + item 3117 1900 gold+800 gold+800 gold= 3500 gold (4100 gold if you finish ravenous) item 3047 + item 3742 1000 gold +2750 gold= 3750 gold item 3111 + item 3065 1200 gold + 2700 gold= 3900 gold

Hell, you could even go item 3047 + item 3053 1000 gold +2550 gold= 3550 gold

If you are 0/7/2 in the midgame, chances are good that you died a lot early. When you start feeding as Rengar (unless your enemy seriously misplays) you will will not be a damage threat at any point, and as such you should not go for ravenous in the first place, and just spec as a tank.

A Miss FortuneOct 15, 20151 votes

LOL the sad part is that a Rengar with that build:

item 3707 item 3117 item 3077 item 1053 who was also 0-7 was able to delete me and my Support, both of us being extremely fed (I was 15-1 with MF, she was like 1-4-25 with Lulu) in like 2 - 3 seconds at the most. It's kind of sad but even when Rengar is behind his damage output is stupidly high with almost no counterplay to it. Well, at least people are saying It's a good idea to pink ward Rengar's damage.

The Yetii RiderOct 15, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=The True Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TanxNW7b,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2015-10-15T01:46:09.158+0000)

if you are 0/7/2, and your inventory looks like this at 27 minutes
It is safe to say that you wont be doing damage, and you most certainly wont be living long in a teamfight. / You deal about as much damage, mostly using your W durability and E utility to succeed, and HEY LOOK YOU ARENT DEAD YET

But you get reported for having two boots.

PDE5 InhibitorsOct 15, 20153 votes

the "/" means "or". obviously.

CarryOct 15, 20152 votes

Yes I would also like the items in the second build but going tank doesn't mean i can magically turn the 3500 gold for a Tiamat + vamp + mobis into the 7650 gold for tabi + mercs + deadman's + visage.

AbyssphereOct 15, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Yes I would also like the items in the second build but going tank doesn't mean i can magically turn the 3500 gold for a Tiamat + vamp + mobis into the 7650 gold for tabi + mercs + deadman's + visage.

You do realise there are two pairs of boots listed there, right? He's saying either have Tabis/Plate OR Mercs/Visage, which is around 3700 gold for either option.

CarryOct 15, 20151 votes

That was dumb of me.

Still, seems a bit deceptive. Tiamat + Vamp is approximately a dmp/SV, putting more expensive boots in the second build just seems dishonest to me.

Additionally, it's just comparing the builds at the exact gold breakpoint where you complete defensive items, and have slightly too little gold to get the most cost effective offensive upgrades (item completion).

The post is just being deceitful imo to try to make the defensive build look superior.

Lt CuddlesOct 15, 20153 votes

Rengar item 3111 item 3717 item 3065 item 3742 item 3071 item 3748 ...Thank the based stablord... http://media.giphy.com/media/144Gf2oA74mHQc/giphy.gif

PengodOct 15, 20153 votes

My friend actually mains tank rengar, and he still is extremely useful and still does plenty of damage.

VerxintOct 15, 20152 votes

For rengar, I'd actually almost prefer the keep going for damage, just not play like they can kill whoever they want.

Rengar job is to one shot someone. The probe I usually see isn't lack of defense from him, but trying to play like he's fed when he's behind

A Prop PhoneOct 16, 20151 votes

I know another champ that jumped out of no where and deleted ADC's instantly with no counter play. Her name was Fiora. Rengar rework where? HL3 confirmed.