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Riot, there's no proper balance behind this marksman update.

Mãge··9 votes·1,085 views

It does NOT help at all to balance roles for their respective lanes and matchups if the moment you walk into lane as Katarina you can be met with an enemy marksmen who deals five times your dps over ten seconds. It doesn't help that you deal minimal damage at levels one to seven because you're so reliant on items and resets to make yourself effective. That's not good champion design, that just creates huge player frustration.

Katarina versus Ezreal in mid lane should NOT be an auto win for Ezreal 100% of the time simply because his attacks and ultimate deal more damage than my entire kit can over 3 seconds. His E should not be able to do so much more than my E without a ward. His ultimate should not be able to deal as much damage as mine and more until I outscale him in the very late game while being a global.

It simply doesn't make sense. And I'm so frustrated because it doesn't. It does not make sense.

8 Comments

FalconPawwwwnch5 votes

You haven't been around for awhile have you

Riot's always treated ranged ADs like this

They blatantly favor the class to make sure they're mandatory

Been this way since 2011

Dragonapocalypse2 votes

yep they just rinse and repeat every 2 years or so give marksmen more dmg balance all other champs over a year or two, oh wait marksmen arent strong late game? give marksmen more dmg lol get used to it

ProfDrDeath4 votes

Well, that is less Ezreal's fault, but moreso Katarina's. Her kit is seriously gimped by the fact that her passive resets her whole skillset.

With that kind of mechanic, Katarina's abilities cannot be balanced like anyone else's abilities, as everyone else does not have access to a full kit reset - everyone else has cooldowns to mind, even as they are killing people.

If Katarina's abilities were balanced to be on par with everyone else's, she'd be hilariously broken once the resets start to come in. Keep in mind that all her major damage abilities are AoE, as well, meaning that she distributes a lot of damage around a team. That is also the reason why I cannot consider Katarina a true assassin - she does not work by killing a single priority target, but, more like an AoE burst mage, she liberally applies her damage to a whole team.

Narasimha1 votes

This x100.

Katarina's abilities have to be kept on the weak side because she has the potential of using them more often than any other champions, save perhaps Ryze.

Ruin Lance2 votes

i don't understand how it's an "auto win" for ezreal or why you're comparing katarina to ezreal. i don't know why anyone would take this seriously when you said that ezreal does more damage than katarina (who is a burst champion) in 3 seconds. if there's something that doesn't make sense it's the logic of this thread

Mãge2 votes

Try laning Katarina against Ezreal in a level not bronze.

Critmaster Garen3 votes

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i don't understand how it's an "auto win" for ezreal or why you're comparing katarina to ezreal. i don't know why anyone would take this seriously when you said that ezreal does more damage than katarina (who is a burst champion) in 3 seconds. if there's something that doesn't make sense it's the logic of this thread

walk into lane as ezreal and start auto attacking her from a distance. whats she gonna do? throw a dagger ever 10 seconds? just keep kiting when she tries to ru up to you and zone her when she wants to get minions.

marksmen are supposed to be lategame champions. but the truth is that theyre the worst lane bullies of the game against everything that is melee. the entire early melee vs ranged matchup needs to be fixed.

Ruin Lance2 votes

i see what you mean now. I play in low elo so not everyone is focused on bullying the hell out of their opponent in lane. my thought would be for katarina to let him push so the jungler could gank but it still seems unfair

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