New AP Ratios on Shyvanna? Rylai's/Liandry's Shyvanna?

Elindiir··2 votes·971 views

I read recently of the possible addition of AP ratios to Shyvanna's W. With that, I can see a possible rise of Rylai's/Liandry's use in her kit as they add a slow and an additional 2%HP damage per second onto Shyvanna's W on top of the 10% from BORK and Bloodrazor and 2.5% from her E... All while significantly slowing the enemy being chased... Of course all along with their AP bonuses...

Do you think this will be the case? item 3153 item 1416 item 3124 item 3006 item 3151 item 3116

21 Comments

Raiku Kawisa2 votes

No, it shouldn't at least. The scalings are still weak. AP Shyvana is still not a thing. It is a extreme off-meta build with this change at best.

But this wont be a core build because Shyvana only cares about two things. Attack Speed, and surviving long enough for the Attack Speed to matter.

trash sion1 votes

We thought the same about Udyr.

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

Fair enough but Udyr's ratios are much more consistant. .25 Ratio on his Phoenix Stance DoT, .45 on his Phoenix third attack, and .5 on his Turtle Shield.

Shyvana now has .1 on her W (25% of that for each auto while W is active). .6 on a long cooldown E, and .7 on her ult which only has a low CD if you attack alot. If AP Shyvana wasn't a thing with her E and R scalings I still dont see it being a thing with W.

Elindiir1 votes

I think that it won't necessarily be super-groundbreaking, but it may tip the scales. People generally don't run AP on her right now because it only affects abilities that people don't use for the damage that scales. Her ult and her E have the POTENTIAL to be quite powerful in damage but getting her W going is a bigger priority. With the new scalings on her W, people will be more motivated to play her as a burstier AP diving fighter rather than an AD juggernaut.

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

Fair enough, but I think i would see a Nashor's tooth over Liandry's. Rylai's has potential just because it will turn her W into an area of no escape for her enemies.

Elindiir1 votes

Ooooh good point there!

This is something I will have to play with... (Too bad there is only 6 slots). Also, I might experiment with Protobelt, for added stick.

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

I'll try AP Shyvana for shiggles as well (hell i have a PBE might as well test it today)

Elindiir1 votes

Tell me how it went?!

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

Feeding Lucian and no adc the second game. I haven't had a good game to test yet.

Elindiir1 votes

yeeaaahhh SURPRISE!!! ADC top!

trash sion2 votes

Too squishy. I see her becoming the next Udyr.

She'll build RE and Swifties for the MS, plus Deadmans. Aside from that, the build will differ, but she'll abuse some key part of her kit. My guess is that she'll grab Rylai's so she can't be kited, or maybe Triforce or Nashors to keep her autos up to par damagewise.

cocacolalips1 votes

But Rito, said Tank/Bruiser/Marksman is weak right now !

Buff AP ratios

Thanks Rito. U da Best.

Laustin Space1 votes

It's funny because I had just gotten lvl 5 mastery on Shyvana playing her as an AP bruiser with Liandry's/Rylai's the day before they added this to PBE! xD

DorkunedAuras1 votes

wat

BluePolarizer1 votes

There's no reason to play her as an autoattacker if you're going for this.

Why not just go full tank? item 1401 item 3116 item 3151 item 3075 item 3111 item 3001

You'll be super sticky, melt squishies and be generally annoying and tanky as hell.

Elindiir1 votes

Interesting build path too... Since Shyvanna's W is in the range of Abyssal Scepter... The amount of magic pen in that is enough for burning mechanics to effectively be true damage if someone isn't building MR.

BluePolarizer1 votes

You'll be dealing 150 magic AOE DPS with W that's effectively true damage just for sitting there, while having unignorable autos. You'll also have something like 3300 HP, 200 armor and 150 MR. Your autos still hurt too due to E. It's also pretty cheap.

Wenderwall1 votes

If going item 1401 take item 3748,item 3075 item 3083 item 3001 item 1001 (whichever) or item 3742 . Her W scales decently will AD and gives back to AD damage. Though her E scales with AP. It's the on-hit damage which causes more damage than just E. And you'll end up with 20%CDR.

You'll be doing hybrid damage + wave clear with auto-attack ( thx to hydra). Save W+E engage instead.

item 3151 -- Is like bork.. current hp, which doens't help against a Warlord Bloodlust keystone champ. That champ will melt you faster becuz of aggressive scaling lifesteal.

I like AD-tank shyv, but if you like AP-tanky, sure why not. item 3083 .. for it's awesome health regen.

Zerolera1 votes

The AP scalings are far too weak to make use of that item build. It's more in lane to allow her to get some benefit from hybrid items especially Rageblade.

Shonjl1 votes

The most I see is Rylai possibly being added into the mix, but to be honest even that is not gonna happen, she is an Auto attack reliant champ, if she wants slows, she will just get Frozen Mallet. Which makes me wonder why people dont get that item much lol.

Elindiir1 votes

I usually preferred Iceborn Gauntlet because of her AA modifier abilities. It is cheaper, has CDR (really important for keeping up burnout) and a lot of armor... I usually only got Frozen Mallet when most of the team was AP... which up until very recently, was extremely rare with all AD teams being almost as common as mixed teams....

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