I Feel As If I Am Getting Ripped Off -This needs to end.

Statutory Gank·8/4/2016, 5:27:15 AM·3 votes·1,682 views

I have purchased a lot a lot a lot of RP and used it on the chest bundles ever since the hextech system came out. The money I have spent on just he RP for hextech bundles alone is I believe is close to $500.00 or more. Unfortunately I owned every champion in this game before the hextech system came out and I play enough that I can easily purchase new champions with a mass amount of IP I have saved up. So my problem is as follows: When I purchase a chest and the only thing I get or at least over half of what I get in each chest bundle is a champion shard I am becoming essentially ripped off. (especially in one particular case when all 11 of the unlocks were champion shards.) I also have several skin shards that keep getting duplicated and repeated over and over again as well as skin shards I already own........I understand the blue essences can be used in the new mastery system but I do not feel like that is adequate or proportionate or even necessary that blue essence be used in champion mastery 7. (It feels like a stop gap measure you created in order to do something about the blue essence problem.)

I would also like to point out that I'm not talking about chests and keys you earn through playing the game I am talking about Real Monies spent on RP that go toward the hextech system. When real currency is involved and goes to a game to buy ( or to have a chance at getting) new content and all you receive is old content that is a really really crooked system, that hoodwinks people out of real money. To put it into perspective say you spent 100.00 on RP to buy only chests and you only receive 20% of usable material from that 100.00 then you have plainly just been ripped off, if not ripped off then you have just basically participated in a Gambling operation because real money was involved......While I do not think this practice is necessarily illegal as casinos use this type of system all the time. I do wonder about the appropriate legal measures put in place. Are under age kids essentially gambling with their parents credit cards? Could a local or federal judge be convinced that Riot has indeed created a type of gambling operation? ( As a student of Criminal Justice, I do not think it is too far fetched to believe a judge or a state and federal tax code has been violated with the current system being used as it is, If of course measure were put in place to ensure that nobody got something they already owned then there would be no legal question whatsoever......However that is not the current or past case.)

My question for riot is.. Are you running a casino slot machine type operation? Are you taking real money from people and having them play essentially a virtual slot machine with hopes of getting something they want? ( This practice of course is not illegal but ) do you riot and your Chinese parent company have the proper legal paperwork to being doing this kind of operation and are you paying the proper taxes on this kind of operation? I sincerely ask because I feel like I as a long time player am being ripped off. It feels as If I am quite literally playing a slot machine using real money for a virtual good that I may or may not get. I would only like serious responses to my query. As I am deeply concerned. Or perhaps I am mistaken and you could point me toward a few U.S. legal cases that have been ruled on in regardless to a similar type of situation.

33 Comments

Reaper Soraka8/4/2016, 5:40:01 AM2 votes

It pretty much is an internet casino, but legally it won't be seen that way. You always get something for it so you technically never lose, but you can definitely come out behind if you want to think of obtaining all champions/skins as progress.

In legal terms, I don't believe it is really gambling because you always get something in return. You purchased the right to play with the mystery chests, and use the items they randomly contain for that account. Keep in mind you never purchased these skins, and you do not own your account. You purchased the right to use these skins on the account. These are all property of Riot Games, and they may revoke your right to use them at any time, for any reason or no reason at all. (for lack of copy/pasta it directly.)

So with that said, yeah you kinda are getting ripped off for buying skins. It's something you do for fun and to support the company/game/community you like. I've thrown my fair $100 at it, but the company, game, and dumb dress-up girl in me made it all worthwhile.

Handy Sandy 8/4/2016, 5:45:16 AM2 votes

If you haven't realized, you don't always get what you want from chests. It's random.

If you're just realizing that then..well..how didn't you?

Statutory Gank8/4/2016, 5:46:13 AM1 votes

31 U.S. Code § 5362 - Definitions (1)Bet or wager.—The term “bet or wager”— (A) means the staking or risking by any person of something of value upon the outcome of a contest of others, a sporting event,** or a game subject to chance**, upon an agreement or understanding that the person or another person will receive something of value in the event of a certain outcome;

http://definitions.uslegal.com/g/gambling/

Gambling Law & Legal Definition

A person engages in gambling if he stakes or risks something of value upon the outcome of a contest of chance or a future contingent event not under his control or influence, upon an agreement or understanding that he or someone else will receive something of value in the event of a certain outcome

Handy Sandy 8/4/2016, 5:54:56 AM1 votes

Since LoL is so popular, wouldn't everyone find out by now? Of course it's legal cuz facts

btw i didnt read the whole thing lmao

CerealBoxOfDoom8/4/2016, 6:27:11 AM1 votes

you sound like an addict

Nilok8/4/2016, 6:31:54 AM1 votes

The hexcrafting system is basically skinner box and is abusing your psychological triggers to cause you to spend money. Rather a dirty tactic in my opinion.

Critmaster Garen8/4/2016, 6:41:12 AM1 votes

why arent you buying mystery skins instead, if you want to gamble but still only get skins?

i also have every champion in the game and for exactly that reason id never throw money at the hextech system. its kinda obvious that youre not coming out ahead with these things.

also, 500 bucks. what the fuck. ive been playing this game since before season 1 and still only have spent 20 bucks on it.

VivaLaKitten8/4/2016, 7:02:53 AM1 votes

they should really just make all Essence the same just orange essence orange essence for Champions, Skins, Champion masteries etc. problem solved