So finally the bans are going to be 5 per team.

Yi Bencheikh·Aug 21, 2016·4 votes·684 views

Now we just have to wait for mains to cry 100% ban incoming i thank riot for that , because we will finally see some damn champion diversity , tired of zed yasuo lee darius illaoi every god damn game

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AstôlfoAug 21, 20161 votes

But I mean. Darius isn't worth banning. Irelia, ehhh, maybe-ish, not really. Zed is garbage. Fiora is meh and bad unless you have a ton of experience on her. Ekko is overrated. Hecarim is just annoying, not much else. GP is strong but he takes an incredible amount of skill to play well. Yasuo is overrated and getting nerfs anyways to his bruiser build which is really his only problem. Lee is garbage. Illaoi is strong, but not really worth banning unless you just don't like playing against her.

EndlessSorcererAug 21, 20161 votes

Darius and Irelia being ban-worthy really depends on who you want to pick.

They aren't always the best pick, but they counter certain champions rather severely.

AstôlfoAug 21, 20161 votes

They're not really worth banning outside of a counter matchup though. Should've phrased it that way, my bad.

adidasAug 21, 20162 votes

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But I mean. Darius isn't worth banning. Irelia, ehhh, maybe-ish, not really. Zed is garbage. Fiora is meh and bad unless you have a ton of experience on her. Ekko is overrated. Hecarim is just annoying, not much else. GP is strong but he takes an incredible amount of skill to play well. Yasuo is overrated and getting nerfs anyways to his bruiser build which is really his only problem. Lee is garbage. Illaoi is strong, but not really worth banning unless you just don't like playing against her.

Ekkos not overrated. Hes a completely viable champion that forces you to use a lot of resources on him. An ekko with zhonyas + ult + GA will force the enemy team to empty a bunch of stuff they need for other champions, on him.

''Lee is garbage'' 100% false statement. Lee has a great early game impact. I agree he is NOT worth a ban though.

''GP is strong but he takes an incrediable amount of skill to play well'' That... doesnt fuckin matter. Hes still 100% ban worthy

''Fiora is meh'' A good fiora is oppressive in lane. I have mastery 7 with fiora and can vouch for that shes never a bad ban

''Darius isnt worth banning'' I agree with you. but i play him a lot and he can be very frustrating to fight

''Irelia, ehhh, maybe-ish not really'' Irelia has a 100% bann rate in my elo ( Low diamond ) So speak for yourself.

AstôlfoAug 21, 20161 votes

"100% false statement" Uh, yeah, no. "great early game impact" lolno Yes, his early game is his strongest point, like he's supposed to. Except. Said early game winrate is still 48.04% on average. And his average winrate in general is 46.9%. And even experienced players on average can't get even 50% winrate on him.

Uh, didn't say it did. I'm just saying that most people probably won't play him well outside of the GP mains and then high (Diamond+, Plat+ maybe) ELO. And shitty GPs aren't hard to beat.

Let's not ignore the rest of what I said. Her nerfs to Tank Fiora (which were deserved) killed Tank Fiora. They also made her skillcurve drastically more punishing. She's no longer just the easy "hurdur mash keys kill people" champion she used to be with her old build. Hence, the only time a ban would be worth is if you think that you'll play against an actually good Fiora for one reason or another. Bad Fioras are just literal shit and useless as fuck.

You could say almost every single champion in the roster is frustrating to fight.

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/irelia/diamond TIL 43.9% = 100% Also you're G5 lmao

adidasAug 21, 20161 votes

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AstôlfoAug 21, 20161 votes

Kid, winrates do mean shit, no matter what delusions you'd like to think. That doesn't mean jackshit buddy. What you can do is irrelevant. First of all, the sample size is so small it's not even worth talking about. Second of all, you're only G5. Third, that doesn't matter in the first place, you literally just proved me right. Lee is good in early, that's you might be able to do well, good for you? He also falls off late, hence losing game. He's still garbage. That's why he underperforms at literally every single fucking factor in the game whether it be length of the game, experience and number of games played, builds, masteries, runes, what have you. I never said anyone would have a 100% winrate. But congratulations, you can use strawman fallacies.

The irony is hilariously real.

LOL You're actually calling someone autistic over an internet debate? Grow up kid.

On an amusing note, you completely dodge the remark about me pointing out you're G5 instead of low Diamond. Hue.

YSeT9iEzJKAug 22, 20161 votes

You're bronze 4.

How on earth can you be making fun of somebody being gold 5 when you are literally sitting at a 31% win rate in bronze 4...

:facepalm:

Also, could you please tell us who YOU ban ? Its just kinda interesting because I thought Darius is a must ban in bronze since he dumpsters on bad players such as yourself.

AstôlfoAug 22, 20161 votes

???

First of all I barely care about Ranked. Second of all, I don't even play Draft Normals that often, I usually play Blind. Third, when I do play Draft (normals or ranked), I usually ban popular champs that either most people don't know how to play against at my low-level tier of play and/or champions that would counter others in the team/comp. And/or the general strongest picks currently by winrate (champion.gg) because if they can do that well in Plat+, almost no one will know how to beat them in Bronze. Ashe/Sona/Jhin/Blitzcrank (because people can't dodge for shit in Bronze)/Soraka (people don't know how to deal with her)/Yasuo (just makes games too unpredictable because doing well is basically just determined by whoever snowballs first in Bronze)/Malzahar (people don't know how to play against Voidlings/Visions and he has silence/suppress both of which are strong)/so on and so forth are some typical ones. If I'm not top and I don't think our top could beat a Darius and it was Ranked, sure, I'd ban him.

YSeT9iEzJKAug 22, 20161 votes

Playing normals doesn't justify you being bronze 4. even your normal games you're playing with mid bronze/low silvers (more trash).

Why you get so offended at what the Gold 5, higher elo, player has to say about your opinion is just odd.

I hope you understand that you shouldn't be making fun of somebody elses rank when you're in bronze 4 of all places...