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Guys, calm down and let the new PBE update have some time to settle in.

Captain Lito··7 votes·808 views

Guys, listen to me. There's a crap ton of new stuff on the PBE, including 4 mini-reworks, 6 new skins, and a bunch of buffs/new items. But instead of "Thank you for" or "Yay" threads, I'm seeing a shit ton of "These changes..." or "Skarner gets a rock". I know Riot's been pretty bad about champ updates, but think about it: It's on the PBE. Let the testers test it, give it a few days for more changes/fixes to be made, and if something bad is still around after those few days, then go ahead and complain about it. Just don't immediately treat something like it's garbage, Riot just does it to try and help us enjoy their game more. They fixed a lot of problems with the new HUD, didn't they? They gave us Arcade Riven, didn't they? They gave Darius superpowers, Garen can hunt villians now, Morde has a dragon, and Skarner has zones of power all over the map.

tl:dr Maybe some of the changes are meh, but come on, give Riot a few days to look at the PBE and analyze the results. If something dumb is still happening, then by all means go all out at them.

However, I will consent to one fact: Buffing Lee Sin was the dumbest idea I've seen in a while. That is all.

Just look at yourself for a moment guys: http://gyazo.com/a1231f64950b4ea0e64e006a4267007c.png

19 Comments

AtheosisX4 votes

No. It's a bullshit update and Riot needs to know it ASAP.

Captain Lito5 votes

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No. It's a bullshit update and Riot needs to know it ASAP.

Not all of it is bad, just calm down and give them a few days. They're just doing it to help for gods sake

AtheosisX1 votes

Help what? ADCs and AD assassins? Yeah, fuck that.

Captain Lito3 votes

The PBE content has been up for a few hours. We don't know yet if it's going to hurt or harm adcs/ad assassins. It's probably going to benefit both because of the midgame armor nerfs, but we don't know everything after two hours. Give it time, that's all I'm asking. Some of the changes ARE stupid, I agree. But give it time.

Blue Socialist2 votes

CALM DOWN? WHAT DO YOU MEAN CALM DOWN?! That would imply not immediately QQing about something that hasn't even been released yet? :O What a novel concept!

Captain Lito1 votes

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CALM DOWN? WHAT DO YOU MEAN CALM DOWN?! That would imply not immediately QQing about something that hasn't even been released yet? :O What a novel concept!

It's appears to be very rare, I'm trying to make it more prominent though.

Phuc Dat Bich1 votes

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CALM DOWN? WHAT DO YOU MEAN CALM DOWN?! That would imply not immediately QQing about something that hasn't even been released yet? :O What a novel concept!

Yeah Because lets remember how many times riot lisent to someone other than the lee sin cry babies about nerfs and they actually pull them off...

Oh wait...

There is a reason why people say this the PBE uptade SUCKS

I MEAN HAVE YOU SEE GAREN? DO YOU SEE HIM? HIS ONLY CC GET NERFED FOR 1 SECOND AND HIS E NOW SLOW HIM WHEN HE HIT CHAMPIONS

DO YOU REALIZE HOW STUPID THAT IS? THINK OF IT AND TELL ME WHO THE HELL THAT CALL HIS SELF GAME DESIGNER CREATE SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

EVEN THE FREAKING BLITZ THE CHAMP THAT GETS SLOW ON HIS SELF HE GET IT AFTER HE GET A BURST OF SPEED FOR SOME SECONDS

GAREN NOW HIS PRIMARY DAMAGE CANT BE APPLYIED BECAUSE HE CANT HIT CATCH UP WITH THE TARGET BECAUSE SIMPLE HE WILL BE ALWAYS SLOWER THAN THE ENEMY EVEN WHEN THE ENEMY DOSENT HAVE BOOTS!!

now you can see why people dont want this shitty uptade and why they want riot to realize that they need to fire the person who come up with this idea!

AtheosisX2 votes

I'm sorry, but are you serious? Armor is being heavily nerfed. The only natural conclusion is that it will help ADCs, AD assassins, and AD bruisers. That doesn't need to be tested. It's in the numbers right in front of you.

Imperial Red3 votes

The rational approach to PBE content. Too bad it will probably be downvoted to hell.

RIP item 3070

Vistha Kai1 votes

"The rational approach to PBE balance changes"?

Were you born yesterday or just trolling here?

MintChipHomieLix3 votes

PBE is not a viable testing avenue. People that play the PBE aren't playing with the same competitive level that people do when it comes to the actual game. So this means the data that they get from this is not as viable as it could be. This isn't Riot's first big screw up when it comes to a rework or a nerf of buff. I think as Riot mess up more of these "reworks" more people just give up on the idea that Riot will fix the issues. There are some things that people don't need to wait to comment on i.e. Lee Sin but this could also apply to crushing your favorite champion into dust.

Captain Lito2 votes

It just seems overkill to really hate on a rework after two hours, it's not fair to Riot or anyone who likes the changes. Maybe the PBE is a bad idea, they should probably add an ELO restriction or just take results from Plat and above, but I'm just saying that all of the current hate just seems like overkill.

MintChipHomieLix1 votes

Well for some it's a change that makes their champion bad and they want to make sure the voice is heard about it. While raging and mashing on a keyboard doesn't solve the issue it may make people feel better. Taking information from Plat or above would be bad as well because you need to sample the ENTIRE player base. MOST of league players aren't plat or higher so why should they control how the game is changed? That would make the issue even worse for those people that already feel like Riot doesn't listen. Which is where I think most of the rage comes from.

Captain Lito2 votes

Fair enough about the plat idea, but does giving a day or two for Riot to make adjustments + letting people cool down and actually look at the changes sound so bad? That's all I'm asking for, just to try and keep people from making rash accusations about some of the bigger reworks. They may also love how their champ is, yeah, but most of that disagreement with the new changes is temporary anger, most people calm down after a day and are a bit more rational afterwards. I'm just asking for people to cool down, take a nap, eat some food, play some games, and THEN come back to look at the change again.

MintChipHomieLix1 votes

You can't control what people are going to do on these boards. They downvote things they just don't agree with or like or rage for no reason. Don't believe me? Look at this thread because I have a different opinion than you or whomever every comment I post will get downvoted for no reason. Just a bunch of people thirsty for some haterade I guess.

Vistha Kai1 votes

I don't need to play something for 20 hours to know it's a bad change.

That's why nature equipped you with a brain. To use it.

Erijian1 votes

Have you tried the new Garen yet?

It's extremely disappointing, even with the "Villain" system in place.

Vistha Kai1 votes

I know Riot's been pretty bad about champ updates, but think about it: It's on the PBE. Let the testers test it, give it a few days for more changes/fixes to be made, and if something bad is still around after those few days, then go ahead and complain about it.

You have no clue what PBE is for, do you?

OmegaTree1191 votes

Look at how many replies from Reds are there. I'm not confident about how Riot gives a shit about these major nerfs.

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