what's the point of the "meta" thing.. make some champions 100% useless and unplayable?

SirΤeemο·Apr 12, 2017·1 votes·728 views

for real... what is going on , building lethality as jayce allows you to 1 shot everyone Playing tank lee you never die Yasuo just rules top/mid lane (a good player... ) Riven simply unhealthy Vladimir has no counter play , he heals insanly too much
leblanc literally one shots you with her burst damage .. fiora way to unhealthy

While Yorick is useless , except if build full tank urgot is 100% a passive champion he is a total 0 amumu keeps getting nerfs on skills while he is 90% played tank gragas is suffering sejuanni is nowhere to be seen those months scarner is just bad and outdated

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Mysticman89Apr 12, 20172 votes

As the other poster mentioned, lots of those things are on riots radar (although some sound more like low elo problems where the distinction of 'no counterplay' and 'I don't know how to counterplay' is relevant).

Still, you should understand that the meta is constantly evolving and isn't something that riot decides. As players explore new builds/strategies and patches occur, what happens to be meta always changes, and not always in expected ways. Sometimes a small buff to one champion can result in another completely unchanged champion to fall out of meta entirely, or even a small buff to a single item can result in entirely different champs taking over the meta.

For example, say a buff to item A occurs, then champions B, C, and D happen to synergise well with that item so they become popular. Champions B, C, D happen to be counters to champs E, F, G so they fall out of meta entirely, but champions H, I, J counter B, C, D so they become popular. Then Champions K, L, M, N, O, P end up having good synergy with with champs B, C, D, H, I, J, so then you have a bunch of new champs displacing the old 'meta' picks, all because of a seemingly innocuous change to one item. (And that process can continue too, as people then start picking things that counter K, L, M, N, O, P and so on, so even with no patches at all the meta can slowly shift.)

The designers and balance team aren't actually wizards so while they try to have a relatively balanced game, it's nigh impossible to know exactly how the meta will respond. Also, it's pretty much impossible for every champion to be balanced at every elo, so every champion having a 50% winrate and roughly equal playrates isn't even a goal.

HalcyonDwellerApr 12, 20171 votes

This post is either really early or really late.

There are lots of changes that have either happened or are going to happen soon.

Sit tight, half the stuff you mention here was just addressed in the past few patches or is getting addressed soon with the mid-year update.

FireDrizzleApr 12, 20171 votes

{quoted} While Yorick is useless , except if build full tank amumu keeps getting nerfs on skills while he is 90% played tank scarner is just bad and outdated

Yorick becomes useless late regardless of build. Before the warlords change 2 vamp sceptors after BC was actually strong, but not late. I was so sad about that mastery change. They should buff towers defenses for the game in general and compensate the indirect nerf with buffing his late. Amumu was buffed. Not sure, annoying af though.

GrymmstrikeApr 12, 20171 votes

The point of the "meta" thing is that it is the Most Efficient Tactics Available. So the meta adapts to the champion changes, not the other way around. Riot tries to balance things when they see a champion doing well, but then players find another thing that is the most efficient tactic available and Riot has to try to find a way to balance the new thing.

junglerboy16Apr 12, 20171 votes

meta isn't actually an acronym, that's just something reddit made up.

Meta is an abbreviation for "metagame", which basically means the unwritten rules of the game that are followed by the majority of players. Sometimes that involves the most efficient tactics, sometimes it's stuff completely unrelated to tactics.