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Fiddlesticks drain vs rework Akali shroud

Best Fiddle··6 votes·3,845 views

After many years of facing Akali and seeing them hilariously die, as they got drained within their shrouds, I was wondering if the rework Akali's new shroud cancels Fiddle's drain?

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Akali is SO HOT7 votes

I just tested it and it does not cancel it

WøOxer1 votes

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I just tested it and it does not cancel it

It's complicated then for me how her shroud works, I've read several threads that she becomes untargetable so in that case she cancels channeling effects?

Detailed explanation would be great for me, what she can do what she can not.

MYSTlCFLOW1 votes

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It's complicated then for me how her shroud works, I've read several threads that she becomes untargetable so in that case she cancels channeling effects?

Detailed explanation would be great for me, what she can do what she can not.

fiddle drain goes thru elise jump, pantheon ult. yi Q literally anything.. that makes a champ untargetable because.. he isn't targeting them after he's already casted it

nyakasgoods1 votes

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It's complicated then for me how her shroud works, I've read several threads that she becomes untargetable so in that case she cancels channeling effects?

Detailed explanation would be great for me, what she can do what she can not.

I haven't actually played her yet, but to my understanding:

While in shroud, Akali can

  • Be hit by aoe abilities
  • Be hit by skillshots
  • Have her position revealed (à la shimmer like Twitch)
  • Take damage from tethers (like Fiddles drain, although I feel like LB E has a similar effect)

While in shroud, Akali cannot

  • Be truly revealed
  • Take damage from targeted abilities or autoattacks
  • Be targeted by tower (but will still take damage from tower shots in flight)
Akali is SO HOT1 votes

She can be revealed by everything that reveals her currently, but she cannot be targeted even if revealed

GrReaper961 votes

Basically invisibility + untargetable

japhib2 votes

Except traditional untargetability like Vlad W, Fizz E doesn't allow them to be hit by aoe abilities or skillshots.

DracosKasu1 votes

Channeling effect dont stop because you already apply the effect.

Best Fiddle1 votes

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I just tested it and it does not cancel it

Lol excellent queues the dramatic piano

WøOxer1 votes

Yes it may cancel, or should since becomes untargetable.

Larriet2 votes

It does not break tethers, so it should work.

chipndip11 votes

Akali's shroud doesn't stop incoming damage. It only prevents further targeting after the fact.

Fiddle's drain is a tether, so she can't break the tether by just shrouding. However, she can shroud before engaging so you can't fear, crow, or tether her directly, so I'd be careful playing Fiddle into her anyway.

Leto GT1 votes

With the damage she has, your drain won't save you. Also I'm pretty sure her E makes her dash out of range.

Rıots Bad Client1 votes

I'm think its the same conditioning as vlad's Pool.

(There is a difference, between Untargetable vs Unvulnerable)

Elewd1 votes

It does not cancel any persisting damage on akali, it just makes her untargetable while in it, its similar to vlads pool and Fizz's Trollpole, Fiddlesticks will still sit there draining her health.

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