If Kog still needs buffs after the %HP damage increase

Rebonack·Dec 4, 2016·1 votes·557 views

Why not give him back his full W range again?

Waaaaaaaaay back in Season 1/2 Kog had 750 attack range when his W was active. He was pretty decent in the midst of the MetaGolem era, so Riot gave him a bevy of nerfs, including knocking his W range down from 750 to 710. Rather than upping Kog's damage (which is, quite frankly, a dangerous thing to do) he could get his real distinctive back. Namely, the longest ranged Marksmen apart from Twitch using his Ult.

6 Comments

JalkanDec 4, 20161 votes

Riot needs to remove the buff for Kog on the PBE. item 3153 buffs have brought AD Kog'Maw back up to 50% win-rate. Any further buffs would push him into being too strong.

RebonackDec 4, 20161 votes

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Riot needs to remove the buff for Kog on the PBE. buffs have brought AD Kog'Maw back up to 50% win-rate. Any further buffs would push him into being too strong.

They didn't.

See: http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/kogmaw/adc/platinum

Champgg has a really tiny sample size. Often times when ~0.5% play rate champs get their stats updated as of a new patch they can appear anomalously high (or low) simply due to statistical noise from the low sample size. LoG uses a much larger sample size than champgg and as you can see Kog is sitting right around 47%, slightly higher than last patch, which as slightly higher than the patch before. Various indirect buffs are slowly stacking up.

Personally, I suspect the %HP nudge will probably do the trick, though I still don't think that's the best way to buff Marksmen Kog since it just makes him more stat-checky.

Thank you for bringing up ChampGG, though. A chance to talk about the dangers of small sample size is always welcome.

GeshultzDec 4, 20161 votes

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They didn't.

See: http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/kogmaw/adc/platinum

Champgg has a really tiny sample size. Often times when ~0.5% play rate champs get their stats updated as of a new patch they can appear anomalously high (or low) simply due to statistical noise from the low sample size. LoG uses a much larger sample size than champgg and as you can see Kog is sitting right around 47%, slightly higher than last patch, which as slightly higher than the patch before. Various indirect buffs are slowly stacking up.

Personally, I suspect the %HP nudge will probably do the trick, though I still don't think that's the best way to buff Marksmen Kog since it just makes him more stat-checky.

Thank you for bringing up ChampGG, though. A chance to talk about the dangers of small sample size is always welcome.

Very likely kog'maw will remain fairly weak even after the buff.

RebonackDec 4, 20161 votes

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Very likely kog'maw will remain fairly weak even after the buff.

Due to how stat-checky Kog is, very small numerical improvements can have a HUGE impact on his performance. Five or six more damage early game might not seem like a whole bunch, but that can easily make the difference Kog needs to come out on top of a trade.

We've seen this in the past (attack speed moving to W, ect) so I wouldn't discount how much of a buff 1% more MaxHP damage makes.

BIackfoxDec 4, 20161 votes

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They didn't.

See: http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/kogmaw/adc/platinum

Champgg has a really tiny sample size. Often times when ~0.5% play rate champs get their stats updated as of a new patch they can appear anomalously high (or low) simply due to statistical noise from the low sample size. LoG uses a much larger sample size than champgg and as you can see Kog is sitting right around 47%, slightly higher than last patch, which as slightly higher than the patch before. Various indirect buffs are slowly stacking up.

Personally, I suspect the %HP nudge will probably do the trick, though I still don't think that's the best way to buff Marksmen Kog since it just makes him more stat-checky.

Thank you for bringing up ChampGG, though. A chance to talk about the dangers of small sample size is always welcome.

League of graphs lul

http://na.op.gg/champion/kogmaw/statistics/adc first win rate late game

GeshultzDec 4, 20161 votes

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Riot needs to remove the buff for Kog on the PBE. buffs have brought AD Kog'Maw back up to 50% win-rate. Any further buffs would push him into being too strong.

http://champion.gg/champion/KogMaw/ADC You mean the 954+ kog'maw games played in which he is picked very little. In overall games lol.