A lot of people say Kindred is no skill but...

Milkydragon·May 7, 2016·3 votes·1,309 views

Have you tried to learn her? Have you figured out how to do every rotation in the jungle right so you can get enemy marks? Idc what anyone says, its harder than it looks.

33 Comments

Goodest GamerMay 7, 20161 votes

ive played her 3 times and in all 3 games i shit on the enemy jungler and every person i ganked. shes broken as fuck and braindead as hell. she does insane damage for no reason at all. her ulti is beyond annoying and has no relevance with the champ at all. you give her percent damage making it so everyone who tries to kill her risks dying as well when she ults and can melt u down with runanns and warrior in under 4 seconds

peaches771May 7, 20162 votes

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ive played her 3 times and in all 3 games i shit on the enemy jungler and every person i ganked. shes broken as fuck and braindead as hell. she does insane damage for no reason at all. her ulti is beyond annoying and has no relevance with the champ at all. you give her percent damage making it so everyone who tries to kill her risks dying as well when she ults and can melt u down with runanns and warrior in under 4 seconds

Sounds to me like you're playing against noobs who don't understand how kindred works and/or don't know how to counter her. If you can melt someone down in under 4 seconds then they don't know what they're doing.

CaptnJakSparrowMay 8, 20161 votes

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ive played her 3 times and in all 3 games i shit on the enemy jungler and every person i ganked. shes broken as fuck and braindead as hell. she does insane damage for no reason at all. her ulti is beyond annoying and has no relevance with the champ at all. you give her percent damage making it so everyone who tries to kill her risks dying as well when she ults and can melt u down with runanns and warrior in under 4 seconds

That's a nice boosted account you got there.

Guess I gotta send in another ticket. Lame.

Goodest GamerMay 8, 20161 votes

LOL. U got me there m8 boosted because I think kind is overloaded

CaptnJakSparrowMay 8, 20161 votes

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LOL. U got me there m8 boosted because I think kind is overloaded

No, it's not that.

I'm just more amused by how when you switch your summoner spells your KD sky rockets, and then on another set of summoner spells it's reminiscent of that of how terrible you "once were."

Nobody goes "diamond quality." To. "Gold Shitter." With just a simple rotation of summoner spells.

Nobody.

But, I'm not going to argue over it. I'll let Riot sort it out. I already sent in the ticket and all of that =). Will you be the 30th person caught boosted/scripting this month? Tune in and find out!

Goodest GamerMay 8, 20161 votes

U can add my d4 season 5 main as well. But if u didn't know not everyone stays at the same place playing league. Riot will surely sort it out. On the other hand it's amusing that a kind main will be so salty. EleGiggle BlackRaven is my main. And pec Leona is my soon to be diamond smurf. Maybe instead of lookin for reasons to get me banned you can explain why ur champ isn't overloaded. But that won't happen. You can also add BlueRaven which was permabanned awhile ago in d5 because I'm toxic on smurfs :((

Also the last ranked game I played I was at my friends house where he tried to fuck me in the ass. My summoner spells have NEVER been switched LOL that is legit the first time. The normal game after that I forgot to switch it again and just went to the in game settings and switched it from there.

Never seen such a determined gold in my life

CaptnJakSparrowMay 8, 20161 votes

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U can add my d4 season 5 main as well. But if u didn't know not everyone stays at the same place playing league. Riot will surely sort it out. On the other hand it's amusing that a kind main will be so salty. EleGiggle BlackRaven is my main. And pec Leona is my soon to be diamond smurf. Maybe instead of lookin for reasons to get me banned you can explain why ur champ isn't overloaded. But that won't happen

I'm not salty at all.

I just know account sharing/boosting when I see it. You're obviously doing it.

As for the whole Kindred thing? I couldn't care less about that.

Goodest GamerMay 8, 20161 votes

U sure about that ? You make up all these lies saying my "kd skyrockets when I switch summoner spells" have u even tried to check my history? My riven stats before the tank meta were crazyyyy. Sad that I couldn't continue on her but that's life. I stopped playing on that account because anything after diamond 5 isn't worth t http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/201058635?matchType=2 :^)

CaptnJakSparrowMay 8, 20161 votes

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U sure about that ? You make up all these lies saying my "kd skyrockets when I switch summoner spells" have u even tried to check my history? My riven stats before the tank meta were crazyyyy. Sad that I couldn't continue on her but that's life. I stopped playing on that account because anything after diamond 5 isn't worth t http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/201058635?matchType=2 :^)

http://imgur.com/a/I4svW

http://i.imgur.com/dH2r2Xd.jpg

Oh look at that. Inconsistent KDS.

Look at all those summoner swaps.

Even your ranked games indicates one person roller coastered you to Diamond and now you're just sitting back playing one game a month to prevent decay.

People don't up and swap their summoner spells. IF you use flash on the D key, you pretty much use flash on the D key for the rest of your career.

You're swapping it, and with each swap the KD alters.

The person with really high kds stopped playing around 30 days ago. Then here comes the sudden summoner spell switch right before elo decay :B.

I applaud the fact you at least tried to cover it up by using the same champions to make it less suspicious.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/28782 <-- unlike that "diamond 5" snowflake that is now banned thanks to me =D.

GL TO YOU! :D

Goodest GamerMay 8, 20161 votes

In consistent? One game where my team doesn't do well and I go 3-8 means it's irregular? ONE game where my friend switches my summonses next to me is "all those summoner spell switches" stop typing and let riot do the work. You are trying to prove a nonexistent point. Right now I'm smurfing and playing on multiple accounts to diamond. That "player from 30 days ago" is talking to you dumass Holy fuck dude do you not understand English? Using the same champs to avoid decay? Fuck me that's pathetic. I'm not allowed to stop playing because I must be getting boosted. I have 7 diamond accounts in s5-s6 BlueRaven,BlackRaven,AZURERAVEN,jaderaven,BlackRaven(lan server). Stop talking and just admit that you're salty kindred might be getting a nerf soon~~~~

CaptnJakSparrowMay 8, 20161 votes

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In consistent? One game where my team doesn't do well and I go 3-8 means it's irregular? ONE game where my friend switches my summonses next to me is "all those summoner spell switches" stop typing and let riot do the work. You are trying to prove a nonexistent point. Right now I'm smurfing and playing on multiple accounts to diamond. That "player from 30 days ago" is talking to you dumass

Wah wah. Heard it all before.

I'll let them sort it out.

Again. IDC about the Kindred nerfs.

I'm stomping with them all the same LOL.

Goodest GamerMay 8, 20161 votes

Enjoy the kindred nerfs EleGiggle gold garbage . Jesus I have a newfound hatred for you forum users. What a JOKE lol. I would be typing this from my main which I DONT play on because FUCK the stress, but it's permabanned on the forums because I raged 1.5 years ago and threatened to hurt a rioter if gnar didn't see a nerf

Also I'm turning into a stats Jew and I didn't want to mess up the perfect riven stats. Pec Leona is being played the same way . I play Ali or whatever as a free game to avoid decay in order to relax more and not care about the win or loss

CaptnJakSparrowMay 8, 20161 votes

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Enjoy the kindred nerfs EleGiggle gold garbage . Jesus I have a newfound hatred for you forum users. What a JOKE lol. I would be typing this from my main which I DONT play on because FUCK the stress, but it's permabanned on the forums because I raged 1.5 years ago and threatened to hurt a rioter if gnar didn't see a nerf

I'm not gold. I'm diamond.

This account has been decaying for quite some time. It was in upper plat climbing away.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/20739524

Notice the very slow gradual decline of mmr, and then a nice subtle drop to 75 lp despite a positive winrate.

Goodest GamerMay 8, 20161 votes

I get it... You got boosted to diamond then you were scared u would feed if u played and didn't want to be banned so you said to wait until u can decay to an Elo u won't feed as hard in.

Oh you :) Ticket : sent

CaptnJakSparrowMay 8, 20161 votes

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I get it... You got boosted to diamond then you were scared u would feed if u played and didn't want to be banned so you said to wait until u can decay to an Elo u won't feed as hard in.

Oh you :) Ticket : sent

No, I got diamond on my own.

You can ask anyone in GD.

Good try, though.

Goodest GamerMay 8, 20161 votes

Because i trust Gd. You can ask my best friend and he will tell u I got diamond !!! XD!!!

Mobile version of this app is so bad due to all the replies fuckkk

CaptnJakSparrowMay 8, 20161 votes

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Because i trust Gd. You can ask my best friend and he will tell u I got diamond !!! XD!!!

Mobile version of this app is so bad due to all the replies fuckkk

Best friends?

Hardly.

That just happens to be the place where I posted my "muh made it to diamond" achievement at.

I also don't believe in boosts, or scripting. If I was doing either, it'd be pretty retarded to accuse others of doing it because it'd just get me researched and banned for X.

The accuse the accuser strat stopped working a long time ago, lad.

Goodest GamerMay 8, 20161 votes

The "this guy is saying this so it means it's an excuse to avoid his punishment " phase ended a while ago as well. No point in speaking to a degenerate like you. Enjoy telling everyone they are boosted just because you're a worthless human being. Buh bye

CaptnJakSparrowMay 8, 20161 votes

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The "this guy is saying this so it means it's an excuse to avoid his punishment " phase ended a while ago as well. No point in speaking to a degenerate like you. Enjoy telling everyone they are boosted just because you're a worthless human being. Buh bye

Pre' sure there's a famous drop hacker running around these parts that swore his innocence for a good two years.

I also don't call everyone boosted. Just ones that look suspicious =).

LauchmelderMay 8, 20161 votes

Give it up man. He got busted and now doesn't want to confess. Not worth your time

Jack Off My BoxMay 7, 20161 votes

Although she probably has a high skill ceiling (I wouldn't know, since I don't play her), she has an extremely low skill floor. You about to die? Ulti, and you basically get free time to chunk the enemy team down with your huge %hp damage and high attack speed. She also has decent mobility (although it either just got nerfed or is going to next patch) with her q+w combo, and her level 3 is disgustingly powerful to the point where most champions can't duel her unless she messes up really badly (honestly she might have the strongest level three in the game, but I can't really say). However, I will say that when I played her, her aa's felt wonky, but that might just be because i'm too used to other champions.

DracocrashMay 7, 20161 votes

Ive never seen anyone say kindred is "no skill". Even if they do, don' let it bother you because you shouldn't care about anyones opinion who is dumb enough to call kindred "no skill" xD.

MilkydragonMay 8, 20161 votes

It bothers me because people ban her, so I care

DracocrashMay 8, 20161 votes

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It bothers me because people ban her, so I care

She was ban worthy last patch (only in plat+! Her winrate in bronze/silver/gold was hovering from 48-51% depending on the ELO)

This patch the 4s nerf early game and the removal of devourer pretty much sealed the deal, she is in a relatively balanced spot. But when you have to face those kindred mains who know exactly what they are doing it can be quite stressfull, especially when your're jungling as amumu X).

I haven't played kindred this patch at all, because of the nerfs and all, but when i play warwick I just straight up SKIP the new jungle item ( I get red smite tho) and get cinder hulk later into the game. Although if the enemies HP stacking tanks start to become a problem and I am ahead, I do get blood razor.

Back to the topic: i think the real reason some people call kindred no skill is because they have no idea what it takes to play her. Kindred is not mechanically hard, aside from the basic kiting mechanics needed to play her. She is hard in the fact that she requires proper decision making, ex. when to invade, when to gank, when to farm, when to push, and not knowing this will lead to you not closing the game fast enough. kindred does NOT scale well so she will probably end up loosing if she doesn't know what she's doing.

p.s I prefer to call kindred a she, because lamb is the one doing all the work, wolf is just like tagging along

Mysticman89May 8, 20161 votes

Isn't an infinite scaling passive something that'd imply she does scale well?

If a kindred can't get stacks then they'll be useless late, but same goes for nasus, but I would still consider both to scale well in principle.

(I don't really play her besides the occasional screwing around as adc kindred [which is bad for mark related reasons], but in principle even an awful kindred could pick up assists against marked targets over the course of a long enough game until they're doing stupid % health per auto.)

edit: I should point out that I agree that kindred does require a fair amount of skill to do well on, and don't mean to suggest that getting stacks makes her easy, just that in theory she's one of the handful of champs with infinite scaling potential (or at least infinite up to the point she 1 shots everyone).

DracocrashMay 8, 20161 votes

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Isn't an infinite scaling passive something that'd imply she does scale well?

If a kindred can't get stacks then they'll be useless late, but same goes for nasus, but I would still consider both to scale well in principle.

(I don't really play her besides the occasional screwing around as adc kindred [which is bad for mark related reasons], but in principle even an awful kindred could pick up assists against marked targets over the course of a long enough game until they're doing stupid % health per auto.)

edit: I should point out that I agree that kindred does require a fair amount of skill to do well on, and don't mean to suggest that getting stacks makes her easy, just that in theory she's one of the handful of champs with infinite scaling potential (or at least infinite up to the point she 1 shots everyone).

3 Things: Her ad scalings are garbage.

a bad kindred still wont be able to pick up marked targets stacks easily because they wont know who to mark.

Just because she scales infinitely doesn't mean shes op late game. Statistics show that she falls of as the game goes on. Source : http://champion.gg/champion/Kindred

71883083DEL1May 8, 20161 votes

its not hard if you have played 2 games with it or googled anything about it :l ..

same can be said with any champion

BoulderoxMay 8, 20161 votes

yea unless you are an Annie , or Malzahar at this point, no skill is miles away from them.

Athenes LuluMay 8, 20161 votes

They're definitely OP, but no skill?

I think these guys haven't seen the horrors of bad Kindreds. Let alone bad junglers...

101100111000May 8, 20161 votes

I learned her as an ADC, her Level 3 is bullshit.

Goodest GamerMay 8, 20161 votes

Atleast as an adc she can be beat late. Tanky kindred just isn't fair. U can't win a 1v1 vs her because of her e and passive. If u do manage to get close to killing her she ulti then ur at risk of losing again

101100111000May 8, 20161 votes

Beating her late game doesn't matter if you can't get there because of how oppressive the bloody lane can be.