I need advice from some kindred players

Milkydragon··2 votes·367 views

I was looking for a new jungler and of all that I saw kindred intrigued me the most. So I got her, expecting it to not be an easy start and so it wasn't. I want some advice containing builds, strategies and so forth.

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EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Nightblue3 played quite a bit of Kindred in the recent past. I would recommend watching a few of his videos to see what he does and for advice.

Honestly, this is probably a good time to pick up Kindred. Devourer will soon be exchanged for Bloodrazor and the lack of stacking requirement should benefit Kindred significantly.

Your jungle item is largely personal preference. Kindred works well with both Warrior and Devourer with Skirmisher's Sabre or Tracker's Knife. One set-up is probably more optimal, but you can get away with both.

Similarly, Kindred can make good use of multiple keystone masteries. While Fervor of Battle is generally the strongest, Thunderlord's Decree and Strength of the Ages are viable alternatives.

Runaan's Hurricane is extremely strong on Kindred since it lets her apply on-hit effects (i.e. passive, Devourer, Fervor of Battle, BoRK) and provides movement speed.

Maw of Malmortius and Sterak's Gage are good offensive/defensive items. Similarly, Frozen Mallet provides a good amount of durability and kiting.

Kindred scales quite well with armor penetration, making Youmuu's Ghostblade, Black Cleaver and Lord Dominik's Regards good purchases, especially against tanky targets to take advantage of your passive.

Generally, Runaan's Hurricane is one of your core items since it lets you apply on-hit effects to multiple targets while providing good stats.

Know when you should use or hold your ultimate. While you can use it to save yourself or allies, in some cases it is better for your team to just let yourself die. If you will win the fight anyways, don't give the enemy team a chance to recover the fight using your ultimate.

Succubús GF1 votes

I actually am in the same boat you are in, recently i have discovered i like devourer kindred more than warrior (but both are very viable) After, you want to rush bork/youmous for some added damage, i prefer berserker greaves, after that you can grab bt or a defensive item.

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

It's just going to take some practice and getting used to the champion and the raw power you have. You have a much stronger early game than most junglers and you really need to abuse that. In almost all cases you're going to want to mark the enemy jungler first and hunt them down in their jungle. Between the slow from your E and the 2 second CD on your Q when you have W active, you can catch just about anybody even if they flash.

I typically like to do my first 2 camps and then go looking for the invade. Have someone place a ward before jungle monsters spawn, on the krugs/gromp. This way you know which side the enemy jungler is starting on. You can do the standard level 2 cheese kill with kindred but i'm not huge on it. I prefer to try and catch them after they've rotated to the other side of their jungle.

For example:

If the enemy starts Blue side, it's highly likely that they're going to do the standard Gromp-Blue-Red. Instead of going for them at their blue buff, you wait for them to rotate over to their red side. It'll really catch them off guard since you don't see that type of invade very often.

However if you don't have a great matchup against the enemy jungler or you want to play a little more conservative, just farm your butt off. Kindred has a great clear speed and takes very little damage in the jungle between kiting the camps and sustain from her W.

With the changes they're making to item 1403 it looks like kindred is going to be getting a MASSIVE buff so now is a great time to start learning her. When the change goes through, the new item is going to be a 100% buy.

Above all else when playing Kindred, make your passive your #1 priority. Get hyped before the game and really get into that hunting mindset. A Kindred with 2 passive stacks at 20 minutes is basically useless. On the other hand you have to be really cautious when it comes to taking the enemy camps that are marked. While it may not be as valuable in combat, this is where building a item 3711 can really come in handy. Keeping the enemy jungle warded at all times can give you valuable information as to whether or not it's safe to go in for that stack. Example: If the wolves are marked and your ward just spotted the enemy at their gromp, it's safe to go for.

You also really need to think about the enemy team comp and the current state of the game you're in before buying item 3153.

If the enemy has no tank besides a support like Braum Alistar Taric you're probably better off rushing a different item. It's a core item on Kindred but you don't necessarily have to build it first depending on how your game is going. It can be highly beneficial to go for a item 3142 or item 3156 first if you need more raw damage or survivability first and you're already sitting on 4-5 stacks.

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Learn to use your Ult properly. If you have a reset reliant team mate like Katarina Tristana you need to be really careful not to pop your ult and completely screw them. I've seen quite a few Kindred players straight up throw the game by ulting while Katarina is about to hit reset city.

Also, Buffering your Ult with item 3156/item 3053 takes some practice but will win you mid game skirmishes. If you can get your item 3156/item 3053 to pop just as your Ult is ending it can be the difference between winning that fight and losing it. Sure, both you and your enemy get healed...but if you're both low HP that shield is going to be clutch.

I could keep going on and on but I simply don't have the time right now. If you wanna add me in game i'd love to play with you and give you some situational in-game tips.

Milkydragon1 votes

This is really helpful, thanks. I might have to add you so I can get my kindred games to be good. Also, what are they doing to devourer?

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

Completely removing it and replacing it with this.

Enchantment: Bloodrazor

Recipe: Jungle Item + Recurve Bow + 625 gold (2625 total gold) +40% Attack Speed UNIQUE Passive: Basic attacks deal 3% of the target’s maximum Health in bonus physical damage (max 75 vs. monsters and minions) on hit.

So you get free passive stacks and you don't have to hard farm to stack an item.

You get to use your biggest powerspike to get stuff done. Instead of carefully budgeting your time so that you can stack your passive and apply map pressure.

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