Make ap items not as good (and get mages out of bot lane)

Devil Demoko·4/23/2019, 7:07:25 PM·2 votes·2,363 views
Lux is fair and balanced

I've felt like this for a long time. As an ADC the core things you want are Attack speed, AD and crit (unless you're an on-hit adc) No item gives you all 3 and it takes a little while to get them. Whereas a mage wants CDR, Mana, and AP. Which luden's echo gives EVERY SINGLE STAT you'd want for a mage. There's no reason to why most mages should have all 3 core items at the start of the game and still be able to 1 shot almost anyone they look at that isn't building MR. On top of that, I wanted to rant about how "supports" are legit one shotting you with honest to god no counterplay (or at least it feels this way). (Brand, Lux and etc.) They legit so so much fucking damage, that the adc doesn't even have to auto attack half the time. It feels fucking awful to play against a brand that can solo your bot lane or at least get you both to 1 hp. Or lux who can snare you for a decent size away, press r and ult then you're 1 hp, while not even being in auto attack range. No adc except for maybe jhin can get 1000 AD, but you can casually get Death cap, void staff and some 3rd AP item and already be at 400-500 AP just from 3 items alone. It's honestly ridiculous.

18 Comments

JuiceBoxP4/23/2019, 7:10:29 PM6 votes

It's been 2 years, maybe more, since lux, brand ,zyra and some other mages started being played on bot lane.

ADJUST TO THE META ALREADY.

No counterplay? Learn to side step.

Champions that 100% of their damage can be denied by the move command need to hurt when they hit you.

Seriously. Mages have so many counters in this meta it's ridiculous.

Mordepool4/23/2019, 8:10:48 PM5 votes

OP seems like a salt mine.

The thigh guy4/23/2019, 8:44:12 PM1 votes

You miss spelled “make all damage items less good”. There ya go. Fixed it for you.

hrooza dota 4/24/2019, 10:11:36 AM1 votes

complain about mages having no counterplay

his main is the adc or in other words the class that auto attack others to death from range

did not know side stepping dont count as counter play but having to reach and kill the adc or die trying count as counterplay

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

also forgeting that ad and ap amount and scaling are different 1000 ap is like 600 ad and 100% ad scaling is transformed into 50¬70% ap scaling depending if it is bonus ad or not (sylas)

Malix Farwin8/29/2019, 12:08:12 PM1 votes

Mages are not in bot lane out of choice, its because we cant survive against assassins mid. Stick a lux, brand, zyra for example mid against a zed, talon, qiyana and they will be eaten alive. Theres a reason everytime those champions get nerfed they try to avoid nerfing their mid lane and why they are always trying to buff their mid lane strength.

What you are suggesting is going to kill scaling ap, and make ap champions with high base numbers go exclusively bot even harder than before. A lot of the bot ap champs are good BECAUSE they aren't item dependent.