Everyone complains about WW, but fid and pant are just as bad. A pattern emerges.

I Solo Towers·12/5/2014, 9:15:24 PM·2 votes·961 views

Their win rate is nearly identical at higher levels. If you break down how each jungler is doing based on win rates something becomes apparent: any jungler that has the following three things is towards the top and as you go down they have less and less.

1)Can farm endlessly without having to back to heal. 2)CC that requires almost no skill to apply 3)Damage

What does not seem to help in the jungle after looking at win rates is: skill shots, tankyness, utility, or speed.

It seems that the jungle needs to be rebalanced to either lower the advantages 1-3 gives or buff the benefits from playing a skill based, tanky, utility, fast clearing champ.

6 Comments

xJLx MCHammer12/5/2014, 9:29:51 PM1 votes

Pantheon is only a problem because they can -Sustain using passive -Get dragon at level 2 with passive

I played a game as amumu today, the enemy picked pantheon. Obviously, the idiot attempted to try and cheese it at level 2 right after his blue buff. What happened, we expected that (me and bot lane) so we just warded the dragon prior to the blue buff spawning. We noticed he was doing it, we ran for a kill. He tried it again at level 3, and again he died. I was lucky my top lane was winning, otherwise, i have to devote an entire game watching to make sure he doesn't cheese the dragon. Once we passed that cheese it state, he was a normal jungler like Lee and Xin. Nice reliable burst and CC but pretty weak late game.

WW on the other hand seems to just be strong because his ULT is hard to counter during lane phase. He seems to be a bit strong because no one can sustain as good as him. If his sustain were to go down...he would be back to his normal state like in S4 where despite being strong jungler and he loses a lot of map presure pre lvl 6

At the moment, it's not very easy to gank pre 6 with many jungle this lets WW off the hook for being really weak lvl 1-5

ofart12/5/2014, 10:47:39 PM1 votes

Fid has a lot of counterplay if you just do due diligence and buy wards. He is nerfed pretty hard on PBE too though. Pantheon also got some minor nerfs.

Hayaishi12/6/2014, 12:56:49 AM1 votes

Fiddlesticks was free elo last season.

His "counterplay" barely works and IMO farm junglers in general have no risk since they're going to outscale you wether they gank early or not