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Truely the shittiest aspect of toplane is

PlanetWarwick·2/10/2018, 7:24:56 PM·39 votes·2,557 views

When you're the one who shoves in the matchup and you're topside. You can get ganked by THREE PATHS, you have to keep TWO bushes warded, the tribush and the river brush, and even then if it's rengar, he can lane gank. And if you don't do this, and you're playing SoloQ, and you're not an extremely mobile toplane champion (GP Fiora Darius Illaoi Teemo Nasus Sion Pantheon Malphite (this is pre6) Garen Tryndamere Olaf Kayle Yorick Karthus Renekton Mordekaiser Maokai Ryze etc.) you can get ganked so many fucking times it won't be funny. Say you're a panth verse a maokai, before you'd be hard-shoving his ass in and spearing him until you can all in. Now, the challenger pantheon is slowpushing the second and third wave so when the INEVITABLE jungle gank comes, he has a chance to outplay it with the damage from the wave. But most pantheons will fail the slowpush and the waves will have crashed by the time the jungler comes, and.. well. can't even flash out. And if you're topside, if the wave is: On your side: Can get lane-ganked unless you have a great freeze because the tower will bounce the wave. In the middle: Lane-ganked if you extend and tribush ganked if you don't have it warded. On their side: You have to either ward a shitton or recall or be stupid and try to shove it. And if they freeze the wave, you're so fucked. If you walk in the lane and its a champ with cc and flash, you can bet their junglers ready to jump you. And until you see their jungler somewhere else, you're not able to do anything or you risk dying for free. And the gank-you tp back-gank is avoidable but then their top can 1v1 you due to the xp you lose by walking back to lane lv2 with no items while they back for free and get a 600-900 item(s)

tldr snowbally lane, easy to gank, after you're ganked once you're fucked if they freeze bc either 1. you tp back and jg ganks again or 2. you walk back and have an item or two disadvantage

/rant

62 Comments

big boi edri2/10/2018, 7:27:04 PM25 votes

I guess this is why Camille is so wildly popular right now (among other reasons).

PhantomGG2/10/2018, 9:07:12 PM10 votes

Naw the worse part about top lane is that the smallest of mistakes will cost your entire lane.

Hexs Fortune2/10/2018, 9:36:29 PM7 votes

Maokai top + aftershock is too much to deal with

Unmissable combo + High Base damage means he gets to build tanky and deal damage anyway, 3 hard cc's to assist with ganks and aftershock to make him take even less damage in case you think about retaliation

Bârd2/11/2018, 10:52:27 AM3 votes

Red-side toplane is more exposed to ganks, and in exchange their bot lane is safer.

On blue side, it's flipped.

Sire Hippington2/10/2018, 9:33:15 PM3 votes

One of the major reasons for tanks>bruisers in top. I still can easily beat about any tank with most bruisers - but i need to keep the pressure up and comit to long trades as that's where bruisers shine, while tanks win the short trades and often even waveclear. However, if you do what's needed to dominate that matchup, you get incredible vulnerable to ganks, and since junglers can get lvl 3 with full health and double buff 3 min into the game already that simply is a horrible idea. Same with GP, you would need to excert heavy preassure to actually punish his 'weak' early, but by doing so you become free food for the opposing jungler with most champs.

Lauchmelder2/10/2018, 7:44:37 PM3 votes

"extremely mobile champion" Gangplank

Pick one. GP has some MS in his kit, but it's FAR from being extremely mobile.

PePsiLemoNN2/11/2018, 11:23:32 AM3 votes

Like botlane? And midlane has like 5 gank paths.

Spoofghoul2/11/2018, 9:54:55 AM2 votes

I would argue that this isn't even the shittiest aspect yet

It is truly a shitty aspect for sure

But there are many more

you can flat out lose in champ select because let's face it toplane is all about out cancering your enemy

This sucks just as much in either case you lost due to zero agency of your own

But even when you overcome all the aids that is hard counter picking jungle syphilis raping you at level 1/2 with double buffs and level advantage and ofc the inevitable 10 minute camp that follows since this never puts the jungler behind somehow

Even if you manage to get trough this festering pile of soa's that gets thrown your way through sheer skill and strategy you are still at the complete mercy of your botlane Who outscaled you after a piss cheap zeal + IE buy

Yaśuo Main2/11/2018, 11:06:11 AM2 votes

Yeah, and Mid has 6 paths jungler can gank from, and 4 of which are effective, 2 of which help the jungler peel if you are diving, and 2 of which can completely cut you off the tower and force you to eat damage.

SpiritOfOdysseus2/11/2018, 6:05:45 PM1 votes

Whats awful is these players critiquing the OPs English instead of responding to the topic. Reminds me that its a dumb idea to treat the majority of the board with respect in that they know how to digest information instead of talking through it.

Skorch2/11/2018, 4:12:07 AM1 votes

Top has always been this easy to gank. And even then with the exception of 2 extra wards and bodies in bot lane it is just as easy to gank as bot, And mid is even worse. And junglers winning top every time does suck, but toplaners winning 1v2 would be even worse. I feel like this post is reaching...

Muzét2/11/2018, 2:24:36 PM1 votes

While I do agree with you.

if it's rengar, he can lane gank.

Not only Rengar can lane gank.

koshkyra2/11/2018, 3:09:53 PM1 votes

Mid has 6

Iffy Jarl2/11/2018, 5:49:59 AM1 votes

How can you get ganked by 3 paths?

Keeping 2 Bushes warded isn't that hard you put a control ward in your home territory bush and keep the neutral river bush perma warded with trinkets.