Meanwhile in PBE:
Whiplash (E) Damage increased from 40/55/70/85/100 to 65/80/95/110/125 Empowered damage increased from 70/90/110/130/150 to 105/125/145/165/185
Anyone feeling even more worried about the state of Gamplay Balance team right now.....?
Nut on my Butt19 votesThey took away % hp dmg because she was busting tanks too easily and now are adding some extra flat dmg to help her ability to kill her intended targets. What's hard to understand about that?
Besides that, her E isn't the only thing that got nerfed. The loss of frost fang is what really hurt her.
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesBesides that, her E isn't the only thing that got nerfed. The loss of frost fang is what really hurt her.
She wasn't even meant to build that in the first place, so that part is pretty null.
Jasiwel6 votesNot exactly. Part of the reason she became so popular (Nidalee too) was due to being able to pick up Frostfang and do drive-by ganks for free gold (and pressure). She went from "maybe she's too strong, dunno yet" to "yeah, she's overbearing". Now that Frostfang is gone, Evelynn and Nidalee have taken huge hits to their potency because their gold income (and mana regen) has been massively slapped.
Even if she wasn't supposed to build the item by virtue, does not mean it did not have a huge effect on her success.
Nut on my Butt7 votesNo, it's not null, it was a huge part of her success, so when it got nerfed, it hurt.
Z3Sleeper2 votesWhat? Every good Eve was building Frostfang and this nerf hit the same patch as its removal. Ofcourse it's a factor.
General Esdeath 2 votesI think the big issue was that they removed the % HP damage without thinking to buff her base numbers.
ModThe Djinn9 votesFrom Meddler's February 2nd Gameplay Post:
Evelynn - Previous nerfs were harder than intended. Looking to give a bit of power back in a straightforward way.
They've had two patches to see the impact the nerfs had, and found they'd hit her harder than they thought, so they're giving her power back. Seems reasonable to me.
AirKingNeo2 votes[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RZuvKIlT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-07T00:35:28.381+0000)
From Meddler's February 2nd Gameplay Post:
They've had two patches to see the impact the nerfs had, and found they'd hit her harder than they thought, so they're giving her power back. Seems reasonable to me.
except for the part where all statistics say Eve is fine and shouldn't be buffed.
ModThe Djinn9 votesexcept for the part where all statistics say Eve is fine and shouldn't be buffed.
We don't really have access to the entirety of the data Riot has available. shrug
AirKingNeo3 votes[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RZuvKIlT,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-07T01:09:48.836+0000)
We don't really have access to the entirety of the data Riot has available. shrug
Yes, we do. Statistics sites exist.
http://www.metasrc.com/all/5v5/current/tierlist?ranks=diamond,master,challenger
GayFluffyUnicorn3 votesOh the numbers mason.... Don't ever trust any of riots "numbers" and "data" also known as dartboard.
Mirage Night6 votesTotally agree, there are other stats show she was hit harder than what she needs to be. She feel just aweful from a gameplay wise, glad they compensated this.
Nevrankroaton2 votesFrom listening to Challenger/Master EUW, Evelyn is considered weak at the moment. As someone said, the lost of Frostfang along with bursting less (which was needed) made her back on being too risky, especially against the top tiers jungle.
AirKingNeo1 votesNo one even built Frostfang.
I'm listening to a Master playing in NA saying Evelynn is fine and I'm reading statistics saying Eve is fine.
Nevrankroaton1 votesEvery top elo Evelynn main in EUW built frostfang, it was almost 'core' at this point because of the quest.
And by top elo, I mean high master/Challenger.
I honestly think the buff is just to make sure she can have better dmg toward mid game with one/two item to assure her assassin job. I don't think it will make her too strong. I am not sure if she needed it but what I wanted to share was just my hindsight on what I know.
Sex Crazed Eve4 votesThat base damage increase is nice against carries but doesn't do nearly as much as her old E did against tanks.
I'd say it's a bit much, though.
NineTailedMystic3 votes"wah, they never revert nerfs/buffs"
reverts nerf
"wtf they're reverting a nerf"
Abibyama4 votesPainfully accurate
Yaśuo Main1 votesAnd unbelievably wrong. With that same logic you could make fun of a garbage champion getting a buff on its damage.
"wah, reduce damage across the board stupid riot"
buffs garbage champion with little to zero damage pressure
"wtf they're buffing a champions damage"
Naalith2 votesAt a certain point of the game you used to be able to legitimately one shot tanks (and I'm talking like 3000+ HP and 120ish MR) with Evelynn, and even as an Evelynn player I thought that shit was insane. They made it so she can't one shot every single champion in the game anymore, but it's harder to kill squishies as early as she needs to, so she's getting base damage. Doesn't take a PHD to understand base damage increase and % Max HP decrease aren't the same thing and don't have the same effect on the game.
Ascended Kindred2 votesBUT WE HAD TO NERF EVEYLNN BECAUSE HER BURST IS TOO DAMN HIGH! - Magikarp breaking down
Primaquarius1 votesPBE is like the restaurant counter, put new material up and ring the bell for it to be served
General Esdeath 1 votesAnd if the customer complains just ignore them and go on break for 13 days!
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesWelp, just another must permaban if you want to win champ. It's not like we already have 10 of that sort. It really gets annoying. Eve is perfectly fine. She actually is now risky as assassins should be and not just oneshot anything after boots+liandries.
Linna Excel1 votesMaybe riot should Olaf her until she needs another VGU.
OnanThaMan1 votesAt this point I could care less. Just mainly hanging around for the train wreck and watching Dyrus and friends now since I personally no longer get any enjoyment out of the game.
Ariel the Cruel1 votesShe's practically a -1 for your team right now. Nice to See 3v3 getting some love for a change! XD
FatedSaviour1 votesmeanwhile still havent fixed the sion bug that has 100% consistency it might as well be a nerf that makes his Q have 8 seconds more downtime if hes cc'd (or in simpler terms, no more cd refund if interupted)
BeatzBoyFTW1 votes.....check patch notes 8.3
FatedSaviour1 votesomfg, its fixed, thank you for bringing this to my attention, i missed it, and well, sion is now playable again, thank god riot fixed it, you sir just made me a whole bunch happier, thanks
General Esdeath 1 votesRemember when they nerfed Jinx's Q because it was too strong on release and then just REVERSED THAT NERF BECAUSE SHE WAS TOO WEAK.
Really activates the brain almonds, doesn't it?
xelaker1 votesMeanwhile in PBE: Damage increased from 40/55/70/85/100 to 65/80/95/110/125 Empowered damage increased from 70/90/110/130/150 to 105/125/145/165/185
Anyone feeling even more worried about the state of Gamplay Balance team right now.....?
perhaps they too suffer from whiplash from all these ups and downs they like haha
Karn Bishop1 votesShe needs that flat damage to kill squishes so whats the big deal?
Iffy Jarl1 votesA flat damage increase that doesn't exceed the double digits, seems pretty reasonable to me
PopcornBunni1 votesEvelynn lost 1% max health damage on her normal E, 2% on her empowered, and 1% scaling
At as low as 100 AP, she was dealing an extra 3% max health with her bust combo.
25 extra flat is only 3% of 834 health. Any health higher than that and she is doing less with these pbe buffs than she was before the nerf.
Caitlyn, the lowest health champion at level 1, goes past 834 with her base stats alone, at level 7, and at level 6 with 
.
This is still a massive net loss to her burst output while also being a boon for her clears, since monsters have less health totals than champions.
Red Wreckage1 votesAlso balance team:
Talon
If this isn't an accidental change/bug, I don't know wtf is going on in there. Talon struggles I think cause he can't reliably proc his passive if his opponent is...lets say not so low elo. Also he is a MELEE AD assassin, with long ass cooldowns and mana to manage. His damage suffers.
How to help him? buff his base MR to levels that no other carry/assassin/mage/fighter/bruiser has even seen?
I guess it'll help him when he takes 10 less damage from all that non stop poke ranged mages throw at him during the whole laning phase.
Jaspers1 votesWait, really? No one in the game has more than 32.1 and the least (for some reason) is Sej on 27 but she's the only one on 27, everyone else is on 30 or 32.1 That must be a mistake.
Red Wreckage1 voteshttp://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/02/26-pbe-update.html
42 is what it says on there. I can't login to PBE right now to confirm myself.
Jaspers1 votesThanks... weird. I wonder why they are doing that.
DragonShea1 votesMeanwhile in PBE: Damage increased from 40/55/70/85/100 to 65/80/95/110/125 Empowered damage increased from 70/90/110/130/150 to 105/125/145/165/185
Anyone feeling even more worried about the state of Gamplay Balance team right now.....?
I swear that Riot must be smoking grounded mushrooms wrapped in coca leafs. That is how high i guess they are right now.