Teemo Slight Buff: Teemo 7th Lowest Mana Regen at lvl 18

EnviousLeviathan··2 votes·829 views

Teemo has an ultimate ability that he spams rapidly that cost 125 mana at max rank. Why does he have 7th lowest mana regen rate? This effects how items that provide mana regen interact with him, providing him with lower benefits from items that provide mana regen as well.

For points of comparison, lets use Heimerdiner and Zyra who both have similar zoning abilities. Heim with his turrets, and Zyra with her plants. Teemo's Mushrooms at max CD without CDR is 27 seconds costing 125 mana. Heim is 20 max CD with 20 mana cost. Yet Heim's mana regen rate is 19.6 compared to Teemo's 14.9. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY. Even if you include Heim's ult turret, that still nowhere matches the mana cost of Teemo's shrooms. I play both champions and have been playing for over 3 years now. I can tell you that I use Teemo's blinding dart and Move Quick as much as Heim's 2 others abilities and I use Teemo's shrooms WAYYYYYYY more than I use Heim's turrets because they are spammable but they have a far higher mana cost. Zyra also has 19.6 despite also being a zoning champ with lower mana costs than Teemo.

I have to use 3 mana regen glyphs or seals just to compete with a Heim's mana regen rate. Or previously I used the utility mastery that gave 3 mp/5. Teemo is not in a good position at the moment, giving him the opportunity to pass on morellonomican in AP builds and perhaps build Nashors again or some other item would at least allow him to be more viable as well as making more builds feasible. It would likely not effect his win rate, just compensate him for his high mana costs which has so far gone unrecognized.

My suggestion is give Teemo 19.6 mana regen at lvl 18 like Zyra and Heimerdinger. Also why is Teemo's mana regen higher at lvl 1 than Heim and Zyra?!?! Teemo has barely any mana cost before lvl 6 since people using him usually max his poison darts and the passive to Move Quick is usually enough during laning phase most of the time. Put Teemo completely in line with Zyra and Heim. Give him 6 mana regen at lvl 1 with +.8 increase per lvl.

5 Comments

L33K Senpai1 votes

Yeah but I don't want to see 50 mushrooms on the map because of Teemo's crazy high mana regen.

EnviousLeviathan1 votes

I believe with max CDR, he can only possibly have around 30. Which he can normally have if he had athenes/morello and seraphs embrace. He is still limited by CD but this way he would at least not go oom as fast when using blinding dart and Move Quick because he wasted all his mana on shrooms.

Hex the FenFen1 votes

You're also talking about some very different champions here. Teemo's job in lane is to poke and harass his opponent. Yes you can use mushrooms in lane, but not all the time. Teemo's shrooms have a different task than Zyra's plants and Heimer's turrets do in lane. Teemo has enough by himself alone in lane without shrooms, you said so yourself. Zyra needs her plants as a vital part of her damage and kill potential. Heimer (as much as I hate him) does too. Teemo's shrooms go ANYWHERE on the map are INVISIBLE and are placed at many different points in the game generally for warding and providing pre-teamfight chunking. So the mana regen issues do not really hurt Teemo that much. And generally with one or two mana items as Teemo i never run out of mana, so I don't see how you are having such issues. Zyra has to spam to do her job properly, Teemo doesn't as he has on-hit damage and DoT damage to suffice in fights when he is out of mana.

EnviousLeviathan1 votes

Can someone please tell me why this is getting downvoted? I haven't heard any sound reasoning for it yet.

G1Radiobot1 votes

But Mordekaiser has the lowest mana regen in the game and i don't complain.

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