Low tier wonder why they lose?

Hela·Jun 1, 2017·2 votes·367 views

I'm not here to blame or say anything about elo hell, however I feel that people in lower tier tend to pick bad picks and wonder why they become outscaled, or why there's no tank or front line, on top of that people have troll itemization. My last game for example these were the team comps (I was me blitz): <<<ap nasus jg **VS. **

I was blitz, i was first pick so no time to adapt to team, kayle was crying gg just because they locked in yorick top for some reason lol, nasus decided to go AP in the jungle, Azir...hardly a relevant pick in this elo or the meta, kog is what ever. Most games in low tier i feel are lost in champ select. I am not saying i always pick the best champs either.

10 Comments

Sir YamazukiJun 1, 20171 votes

You're more likely to lose due to lack of an objective focus than what your jungler picked. Picks only matter in the cases where x would nullify z unless x plays very poorly. Although, your team did nearly no damage to turrets or objectives. Nasus did 0 damage to either of them, which means even if he had picked a "real jungler" you were still going to probably lose anyways.

HelaJun 1, 20173 votes

not entirely true, I am not talking about having a perfect comp. I'm talking about people picking champs that are too mechanically difficult like azir, or just down right broken as in weak. So yes if your jungler picks something like ap nasus, you dont think that hinders the game at all? even if he was ad or tank, nasus doesnt stack well in the jungler and if he did his clearing would be super slow, his ganks could work with the slow but other than that he falls way to fast in the jungle, the enemy knew this and continuously counter jungled. Kayle was Inting the entire game- so I am not complaining about the loss, im just justifying it.

MrHaZeYoJun 1, 20171 votes

I mean had nasus went tank, as well as you, kog, azir, and kayle would of had plenty of time to dump out damage. The problem you more so had was that you had 4 late game champions.

HelaJun 1, 20172 votes

Even if he did, i figure you didnt look at the stats lol. I managed to get kog fed in lane but the rest went downhill while addressing the aftermath of other lanes. Blitzcrank 2/7/11 Kayle 0/5/0 (wasnt playing on purpose) Nasus 3/9/6 Azir 5/7/4 KogMaw 9/9/2 the only way we would of came out on top is if we all played flawlessly, I can only vouch for myself, while i did make mistakes the hooks i did land we didnt have the dmg to blow them up rendering my pick useless. We didnt have a real front line for kog which rendered his pick near useless. Kayle was in enemy jungle fooling around (not exaggerating) so it was a 4v5. Nasus has poor ap ratios and even as tank would pose no threat to the enemy and would either kill him fast or bypass him. Azir did okay, but with his champ being under powered and difficult to play he cant make much mistakes and in this elo thats a hefty price.

MrHaZeYoJun 1, 20171 votes

I'm on my phone at work so I didn't look the game up, my post was also thoeretical, again I did mention you had 4 late game champs, that's to many.

HelaJun 1, 20171 votes

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I'm on my phone at work so I didn't look the game up, my post was also thoeretical, again I did mention you had 4 late game champs, that's to many.

which confirms the point of this post lol, losing at champ select.

MrHaZeYoJun 1, 20171 votes

Not that I disagree with you at all, that game could of been winnable. Kayle can lane well into yoric, Azir will have a rough time vs zyra but he can farm from a distance. Blitz allows kog the freedom of a easier lane. Had the basis built more of a standard build and you guys all played the waiting defensive game you could of won in the long run.

HelaJun 1, 20171 votes

in low elo any disadvantage is a huge disadvantage. Ive been gold 1 multiple seasons in a row (not saying its great but better than the majority.) I can tell when there is a trend in low elo. Azir is still under whelming and no one plays him in high elo either he has a 1% pick rate right now( so someone in low elo definitely shouldnt play him. Kayle could of won lane but decided to Intentional feed and walk around the map avoiding everything. Me and kog did what we could but blitz becomes useless when who ever I grab can just blow us up or my team not have the dmg to kill them.

MrHaZeYoJun 1, 20171 votes

Like I said, not that I disagree with you. I'm simply stating, that theoretically, if you could play passive and make it to late game, you could of won. Azir, Kayle, and Kog all dump damage while Nasus and Blitz soak in just enough to allow them to do so.

Azir may be mathematically weak atm, but he still does his job, he shreds teams with AoE from the back line.

The problem like you mentioned though is the players playing those champions. This is Silver though, like playing Russian roulette.

Mig89Jun 1, 20171 votes

Dodge. I made a post about this. if you only play a couple games a day, dodge if your teamcomp looks garbage and wait 5 mins. -3LP is nothing compared to a 20 minutes game and losing 15-20LP. I also dodge if the ADC im paired with is on a losing streak or first timing a champ. I dodge promos because MMR is more important than LP. Im getting 25 for a win and 15 for a loss at the moment and its because im winning more games now than im losing. I wont dodge bad matchups but i will dodge atrocious teamcomps. idc about individual champ matchups but when you have a team of 5 carrys into a team with a couple tanks, a couple carries, and some utility; its going to be a problem and i dont like playing with people who dont realize its a team game and the comp matters. I dont rely on "well if we all snowball we will win" because that is in no way reliable lol. 90% of the time it leads to an autoloss because a lane or two loses hard and we have no utility to catch up when behind. CLimbing the ladder is playing the numbers game, not playing league of legends.