Worst possible thing a jungler can do to the team?

froggos·7/30/2014, 6:58:46 PM·2 votes·598 views

I don't know. I jungle a lot, and I was just wondering what's the worst possible thing that a jungler can mess up. Like taxing lanes, not ganking, ganking at the wrong time, KSing (Although that isn't as much of a deal as the others), etc.

 Anywho, leave comments what you think it is! (if it isn't already on the poll, that is).

5 Comments

Pharrøw7/30/2014, 7:05:17 PM2 votes

Bad timing kills everything. Taxing is decent in moderation, not ganking at all is better than feeding while ganking, and killstealing is still positive, even if it's not all the gold going to you.

Junglers aren't supports. They exist to disrupt lanes in coordination, not feed people. If someone takes your kill and there's no one to cover lane, or the jungler has to (and is badly equipped to do so), it's a net loss to the laner you killed.

GundayMonday7/30/2014, 7:07:33 PM2 votes

The only bad thing I see is "Ganking at the wrong time". The other three are fine. Taxing lanes is fine if you're covering a lane or just fed someone a kill. Not ganking at all is fine because that means you're farming or focusing on objectives or covering lanes or doing other important jungler stuff. Better to not gank than waste time forcing a gank for no reason. There is no such thing as kill stealing and the mute button was created for anyone that says otherwise :-)

Ganking at the wrong time on the otherhand is awful. You can lose games by doing this. The "wrong time" could mean things like ganking top while dragon is up. Or ganking when there's a giant wave about to hit your friendly tower (don't want your laners to miss out on cs). Or tower diving for no reason when you don't have vision of where the enemy is.

Similarly, you can make bad calls as a jungler and ruin the game. If your team randomly decides to baron when ahead and the enemy can contest, this is a throw. You're giving them an opportunity to smite steal and get back in the game. Same deal with dragon and towers and other objectives. You can make bad calls that ruin the game.

My two cents.

Hoi Im Temmo7/30/2014, 7:07:29 PM1 votes

I voted ganking at the wrong time. It varies greatly, but a bad gank can cause you and the lane you were helping to die. Now you have a champ who is very ahead on gold and farm. Do you camp to re-balance lane? well now you wasted time fixing a problem not previously there, and other lanes suffer for it. Say sorry and move on? That player will likely lose lane. Try to gank while balancing being helpful to other lanes? You now have a small jungling act of farming, ganking, and looking for a chance to catch a fed champion. Not only are you more likely to make a mistake with all this going on, but that champion is better prepared to capitalize on the mistake ans snowball.

Phoenix Kotori 7/30/2014, 7:14:42 PM1 votes

Maybe ganking at wrong time, but really subcategory of it. Dying in a gank with double buffs, especially when granting them to top lane or the marksman early game.

Sire Hippington7/30/2014, 7:15:10 PM1 votes

taxing lanes is a bit annyoing as laner, but not realy bad for the team, killstealing is a term i don'T like, rather a kill on the jungler than a enemy flashing away with 5 hp, and usually it's good to have early kills on ur jungler, as a fed jungler can snowball all lanes and secure dragon. Not ganking at all is bad, but is usually means u got atleast a farmed jungler that evt can counterjungle, secure objektives.

Ganking at the wrong time is the worst possible thing, as it usually sets the jungler behind while also loosing the lane, and at the same time it's the hardest to avoid thing as it needs good warding in the enemy jungler to predict counterganks, as also a good awareness of the state of ur lanes ot not run into a fed enemy laner with not to much health, or bateing ur own laner in a risky battle. The worst possible thing that can happen on a failed gank is a doublekill for the enemy lane, giving double buff to him. At least on top that means usually ur laner can't leave the tower and in many matchups he will probably still die under his tower, as 2 early kills+double buff is a enormous advatage on top.