Can We Get A Vote To Kick Option?

JAYCCCCCCCCCCCCE··1 votes·862 views

Imagine:

You're playing a game of ranked, your team is in the lead. You know for sure you're about to win unless someone on your team trolls. You go to your mid laner's lane, and take 1 of his CS. Mid laner rages and says im inting over you taking 1 CS. Mid laner is now 2/12. You lose game because of inter.

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You're playing a game of ranked, your team is in the lead. You know for sure you're about to win unless someone on your team trolls. You go to your mid laner's lane, and take 1 of his CS. Mid laner rages and says im inting over you taking 1 CS. Mid laner ints one time, team casts a vote to kick, 4 votes must be needed unless the person youre kicking is in a duo queue, which case youd only need 3. Player gets kicked, team wins, person kicked can get punished/lp for the win/who cares.

You wouldnt be able to vote to kick in dynamic queue, meaning you cant have 3+ people on queue up with you and kick people.

This would make it to where we wouldnt have to deal with inters, people who just dont care, toxicity, or players that refuse to cooperate.

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woodvsmurph3 votes

You're playing in a game. You have 3 pre-made on your team or 2 pre-made and one easily persuaded individual. One of the premade makes a play that fails. They feel it's your fault. You are now kicked from the game. Congratulations. Am I a pessimist? No. I'm speaking from all-too-often real in-game experiences... minus the kicked from game part.

Rather... the system should be improved to detect said troll and insta-punish them for that behavior. Sure it sucks you lost a game because of it... but if the system actually worked like it should and took care of the problem off that kind of play and even just one report (1 report = 9 reports; I know), then we could all take comfort knowing that player isn't out there ruining more people's games and potentially going to end up on your team again too.

Ex: had a guy in champ select for ranked game last week who said "hi, I'm inting this game, feel free to leave". I told him I had screenshot and sent it in for report. Guy then banned the champ I picked/indicated I planned to play. I crashed connection so my team wouldn't have to deal with him and I could send report. Ran into him on the other team a few minutes later. He camped me for 4 levels, then afk farmed jg for rest of game while I worked with my team and won the game. He literally never attempted to help his team or defend anything. Just afk farming our jg and his jg for the whole game. Has anything been done about said player? Not so far as I've been informed. Probably still out there ruining games for his teammates even though I reported him for their team after they lost too.

And this is a problem I have with many moderators and boards members. They'll argue he was just playing to win in his own way and shouldn't be punished for that. But reality is... he didn't lift one finger to pressure the map after the first 5 min of the game in a 30+ minute game. He didn't make a single attempt to defend his base or his teammates. In my book, that's griefing, and essentially going afk too. Sure he moved, he farmed, but he had next-to-no impact on the map... not even attempted impact. Their team deserved better than what he gave them for effort and he clearly knew how to do better. But alas with the people we have in charge of dealing with this type of issue right now... said player and those like him go unpunished. And people like me who speak out against that kind of crappy selfish play get punished instead. Because we might hurt said individual's feelings. Too bad people don't realize... the other 9 people in that game have feelings too. And said individual's feelings are being valued above everyone else's by protecting him from being punished for such poor behavior.

JAYCCCCCCCCCCCCE1 votes

You wouldnt be able to vote to kick in dynamic queue, meaning you cant have 3+ people on queue up with you and kick people.

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You're playing in a game. You have 3 pre-made on your team or 2 pre-made and one easily persuaded individual. One of the premade makes a play that fails. They feel it's your fault. You are now kicked from the game. Congratulations. Am I a pessimist? No. I'm speaking from all-too-often real in-game experiences... minus the kicked from game part.

Not even gonna bother reading the rest beens you didnt read mine

woodvsmurph2 votes

Oh I read it. You did not... or rather, you didn't understand. You see... there's ranked 5's - where you can go in solo, duo, or other number. So your first response suggests you mean in SOLO/DUO queue ranked... which you never specified.

But even assuming this... it is still 100% possible for what I suggested can happen. And I've seen it first hand (minus the kicking player from game part) to myself and to others. One guy doesn't like how you are playing... well he ganked for lane x while you haven't been able to gank because you're constantly being 2 man or 3 man ganked yourself. And so when that guy decides you're trash and a terrible teammate, lane x supports that guy... even though that guy is throwing the game for your team by making terrible decisions.

Or... laner or jungler is having a rough time early on due to losing a 1v1 or 2v2 once and they being spam focused by the enemy team. They're not playing poorly and are setting it up for their team to help them, but their team doesn't. And so a jungler falls impossibly behind because they can't farm or they get 3v1'd in their own jg while their laners do nothing to help. And they can't gank because they'll end up 3v3 vs 3 fed enemies that they didn't feed... trying to make something happen for their teammates who fed hard in early lane w/o ever being ganked. Which means they lose the 3v3 or even if it were a 3v2, they'd still lose. And so team blames "useless, selfish, afk farming jg". Even though the fault was much more on the laners.

The reverse can also be true; laner and jg...

And so because the jg that's throwing the game ganks successfully 1 time and feeds on the other 9 times ganking for a lane, the lane supports jg and decides that a teammate of theirs who is holding their own despite being 2 man camped all laning phase is in need of report because... they aren't ganking another lane enough to help and they don't teleport down to 4v5 contest dragon vs a fed enemy team or something like that. Like... sorry but not teleporting to suicide 4v5 and feed the enemy 4 kills plus dragon... but instead snag a tower and some xp/cs seems like a much better call than further snowballing the other team. But with your suggestion... said player gets kicked because their team is too tilted or noob to realize he/she made the correct call and it's the jg that's wrong for trying to force a 3v5/4v5 (if person tp'd) vs a team they can't even beat 5v4 right now due to how badly people did in lane. Seems to me like that's not a cool idea. And it is 100% possible even in solo/duo queue ranked as I've just explained. So... yeah I DID read your post. Perhaps with the more highly detailed explanation I've given now, you understand what I was saying better and see the massive problem with your idea.

I can see where it would be useful sometimes, but it also has great abuse potential like I just explained. Thus, I am not in favor of such an idea being enacted. And it looks like others are not either. It's nothing against you. It's merely seeing how the idea has too much potential for negative abuse.

Ok sure but why2 votes

maybe I would be gold right now if I didn't get a 4/17 support in my fifth game

sign me up

Lets have shrex1 votes

Even if ahead, a 4v5 isn't a guaranteed victory for your team

Atmosphere1 votes

It would be ridiculously situational, but I can see how it would be useful.

onionsan011 votes

We are not on cs go

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