Just found a hard Katarina counter.

Only Play Darius··26 votes·6,211 views

->Riven<-

Katarina throws her dagger? Use your shield dash and absorb** all** the damage. Your shield is on a shorter cooldown than her dagger, so you can ignore literally ALL of her ranged harass.

Katarina trying to farm with autoattacks? Let loose your Q barrage every time she gets near your wave, she has no way of trading with you at close range.

Katarina shunpo's to you and fires off Death Lotus? Show off your instant AOE stun and cancel that shit immediately, then turn the tables on her with a combo of your own.

And best of all, she can't just wait for you to run out of mana. You are resourceless just like her.

Just had to play Kat vs Riven and couldn't do ANYTHING in lane, not a scratch in her armor. Frustrating as all hell.

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Kãtãrinã31 votes

you JUST found this? riven has alwasy been strong vs katarina. You just don't see riven mid to often honestly. Rivens still outplayable in this lane. Sometimes i max W if i plan 2 fight her

Champion Skin2 votes

I have hear that Pantheon and MonkeyKing can also be good and strong in mid lane Though I am not quite sure how good they would be and who they would be good against

WarlockLaw2 votes

Wukong does surprisingly well against most mages. You use his e q combo to heavily chunk them then pop decoy to avoid most of the harass. Stat crystalline flask and rush hexdrinker.

Z Statistic1 votes

You need a lot of flat mr runes though. Some ArPen and AD is good, but you basically need to start flask and have more than 50 mr to dish out damage like a baos.

Pantheon does well versus low and mid ranged mages. Well, ok. He has a really hard time dealing with long range mages like Ziggs or Lux (no surprise.)

terkmc1 votes

Pantheon is an adc caster assassin with massive early game power, great roaming and no escape. I think he fits better mid than top. Get flask, throw out your spear everytime they come in range, use passive to block aa harass, abuse early power, QW aa E Q ignite and most squishies are dead. Use ult to roam

thinking man18 votes

downvoting because enabling riven players is a disgusting thing to do for this community

lolipopevelynn16 votes

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->Riven<-

Katarina throws her dagger? Use your shield dash and absorb** all** the damage. Your shield is on a shorter cooldown than her dagger, so you can ignore literally ALL of her ranged harass.

Katarina trying to farm with autoattacks? Let loose your Q barrage every time she gets near your wave, she has no way of trading with you at close range.

Katarina shunpo's to you and fires off Death Lotus? Show off your instant AOE stun and cancel that shit immediately, then turn the tables on her with a combo of your own.

And best of all, she can't just wait for you to run out of mana. You are resourceless just like her.

Just had to play Kat vs Riven and couldn't do ANYTHING in lane, not a scratch in her armor. Frustrating as all hell.

kat doesnt give a shit about her laner. if kat can kill laner than its a bonus. its her roaming and teamfights that snowballs her.

ModKnightsKemplar2 votes

This.

People keep telling me not to pick kat into cho'gath, because he can silence me. Oh, good for him. I guess he gets to live while I put his bot lane on a skewer.

Halo8 votes

You shouldnt pick kata in to chogath though.

Drukyul3 votes

yeah...eventually teamfights happen

I Summons I9 votes

i mean...kat is hard countered by many champs...

ladention8 votes

I do hate Kat...

But I hate riven waaaay more.

76Summers4 votes

I fight cancer with cancer??? well fuck me and call me...Ahri

TheI3igDaddy4 votes

Fighting cancer with cancer? I like this.

Darth Pixy Misa3 votes

Cho vs Kat is fun

Buttigieg 20203 votes

I just found the counters to Kat as well! Diana Heimerdinger Pantheon Thresh Xerath Swain Kassadin Gragas Garen Kayle Shen XinZhao Udyr Zed Fizz Amumu Alistar Blitzcrank Darius Chogath Jayce Jax Janna Leona Lissandra Galio Irelia Morgana Mordekaiser Rammus Soraka Fiddlesticks Malphite Skarner Sion Cassiopeia Draven Braum Ahri Vayne Tryndamere Volibear Vladimir Vi Taric Twitch Velkoz Orianna Singed Riven Tristana Lulu and about 50 more I am too lazy to look for. Instead of QQing, why don't you just cc her and negate all of her damage.

jDVL20eCYs3 votes

twitch? really? the adc that coutner katarina the least...ash is fucking 10 times better. only adc that dose well against kata is quinn, draven, tristana and a good vayne. and i don't know if you talk about lane but

R0GER3 votes

actually any tanks with MR items can counter kat

XcSDeadDeer3 votes

Do people just simply forget that Galio exists?

NemeBro3 votes

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Do people just simply forget that Galio exists?

Yorick feels your pain.

Every Yorick game I have to tell my team what his ult does.

badooga1 votes

Not me, luckily. The only problem is that Galio has mana issues while Kat is resourceless. Other than that, he can W her combo, simply tank her Q poke as he has a shit-ton of MR, and if she ults just taunt her with yours and fucking rape her with your Q damage. It's that simple.

3TWarrior1 votes

at the same time, could you use your shield and profit from the heal while spamming your other abilities, then ult her once she tries to run away for the guaranteed kill?

badooga1 votes

Exactly

Rico Nasty2 votes

people need to stop taking Riven top and jungle, she is a fucking god in mid right now. she shits on all squishies, and her csing is no joke

Remlap122318 votes

Issue is that Riven gets shit on by champs with silence, stuns, or forced actions.

Ahri Anivia Annie Brand Fiddlesticks Heimerdinger Malzahar Morgana Syndra

are all champions that can easily poop on Riven. Especially Malzahar, holy shit, by the time Malz is done with her, she'll look like she just got done filming two girls one cup.

Godaren3 votes

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Issue is that Riven gets shit on by champs with silence, stuns, or forced actions.

Ahri Anivia Annie Brand Fiddlesticks Heimerdinger Malzahar Morgana Syndra

are all champions that can easily poop on Riven. Especially Malzahar, holy shit, by the time Malz is done with her, she'll look like she just got done filming two girls one cup.

You forgot my famous Garen mid then only available as a counterpick :D

NemeBro2 votes

Cho is the best counter to Kat IMO.

Kat can't outfarm him, she can't kill him, she can't teamfight against him, she can't roam from him, and she is ultimately outscaled by him.

Riven is fine too, though.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Why can't she roam from him?

NemeBro6 votes

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Why can't she roam from him?

Cho pushes like a badass, making roaming against him very hard (and unlike most mid-laners he can withstand a gank despite his immobility). Furthermore, the fact that he has sustain means that she will be pushed out of lane before he is (ward bottom river before heading back if you can, or just don't back). If she does roam, if the Cho player is good he's going to follow her and fucking kill her.

Katarina's entire purpose is shut down by Cho's W. If she can't ult, she can't get kills. If she can't get kills, she can't get resets. If she can't get her resets, she's more useless than a lone ADC.

If Kat roams top, follow her, ping that you're coming, and then 2v2 the enemy. Cho brings a lot more than Kat does to a 2v2, and in most instances your team should win the fight.

If she roams bot, same deal. If you can catch her out in the jungle, just go ahead and kill her (though save your W for when she uses her ult).

In these scenarios, the enemy jungler is more dangerous than Kat herself, but they can be dealt with by proper warding (which, admittedly, you can't do solo).

I mean, don't get me wrong, if the Kat plays well she can still get fed, but it's harder to do that against Cho. I've personally never lost lane against Kat as Cho.

OperationDEEZ12 votes

Cho counters, like, half the mid laners right now.

Electro5222 votes

I've found that Diana is a perfect counter to Kat.

The ability to stick to her if she tries to run, a small knock back to stop her ultimate, tanky enough to withstand any early burst damage, and mana efficient enough to keep up with her resource-less-ness for a period of time.

theragingnerd1 votes

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Cho is the best counter to Kat IMO.

Kat can't outfarm him, she can't kill him, she can't teamfight against him, she can't roam from him, and she is ultimately outscaled by him.

Riven is fine too, though.

i find it funny how i won lane gainst a chogath 2 out of the 3 times i played aggainst him as kat bronze 5 chos eh ^_^

NemeBro1 votes

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i find it funny how i won lane gainst a chogath 2 out of the 3 times i played aggainst him as kat bronze 5 chos eh ^_^

It happens. I was top lane as Sion, and our mid-lane was a Katarina versus a Cho. This Cho, no joke, rushed a Seeker's Armguard against her. He didn't do very well, and Kat got super fed while I bullied the shit out of the enemy Shen and was unkillable. Fun game.

Timewinder1 votes

Cho, Riven, and Kassadin are all big counters to her.

Yura May Zing2 votes

Diana come at me!

Towboat4212 votes

Galio <------------- I mean if we are talking hard counters.......

doiminat0r36002 votes

Riven is practically a hard counter to anyone. #RivenOP

NemeBro4 votes

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Riven is practically a hard counter to anyone. #RivenOP

Darius Fiora Garen Mordekaiser Pantheon QuinnRenekton Teemo Tryndamere MonkeyKing

Please.

ArkenStorm1 votes

i was literally about to post this.

badooga1 votes

Aatrox can actually be a decent counter to Riven

VulpineMask1 votes

garen hard counters riven actually

DrCyanide1 votes

Why are you necroing a 2 year old thread when both Katarina and Garen have been updated since the time this was posted?

jDVL20eCYs1 votes

i actually beat riven mid with kata. you max w not q. be an as. top lane is hard but you can survive. just rush armguard and you will do fine mid. the biggest counter to kata the i always use is kassadin, even scarra him self said that the only match up where he as katarina have no chance to win. other good champs is diana, cho

Only Play Darius4 votes

Yea Diana mid really fucks up katarina for many of the same reasons Riven does. I really can't do anything about her.

OperationDEEZ11 votes

Viktor Is a really good counter for Kat, and while Kass may cause Kat to lose lane, he'll cause his team to lose the game.

jDVL20eCYs1 votes

yes viktor can do good vs katarina indeed

SorasMemories1 votes

Two champs that I hate duking it out

AkabaneKun1 votes

LoL been using riven and diana vs kata for ages now, she can't duel them ever not even fed.

Blainezy1 votes

Diana is a really good counter too. Chogath counters everyone, because he's the biggest bullshit champion ever... But he's banned all the time anyway.

Dominick Destine1 votes

In lane, Fiddlesticks absolutely ass-plunders Katarina.

I know it sounds crazy, but try it; When she goes in, fear and then drain. You will always out-trade her and you can easily shut down Death Lotus with silence or fear.

The only thing to look out for is her roaming, which is faster than Fiddle's but significantly less deadly..... Crowstorm is a female dog if done right.

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