Overbuff ADCs, who were already the most important and most powerfull role in the game to begin with... Overpowered ADCs make AD assassins really strong, since they can shut them down... Tanks who can survive AD Assassins and protect ADCs get a high winrate because they do exactly that: Keep Assassins away from ADCs and the team whos ADC lives the longest wins the game...
RIOT Logic: Tanks are OP, better nerf them!
x UNL3ASH3D z2 votesOver buff adcs, more like finally buff adcs... the meta has been midlane centric since season 3 do you not know xpeke and faker and bjerg?
no Ad assassins are made really strong by actually having viable ad items in the game.
Tanks who are good at tanking have high winrates? pls tell me more?
The team who's damage carries have the best positioning and stay alive wins more often? pls tell me more about how that's a bad thing?
Critmaster Garen4 votes[{quoted}](name=x UNL3ASH3D z,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RAyhKjdO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-12-27T11:02:18.560+0000)
Over buff adcs, more like finally buff adcs...
lmao.
Raoul3 votesName one time since Season 1 that ADCs werent a must have for every team that actually wanted to play serious. I am waiting.
Penns1 votesThats like saying "name one time since season 1 that junglers or mid laners werent a must have for every team that actually wanted to play serious". They are a role, thats how the meta is. They might only be AD champs, but that doesnt change anything. Adc is probably one of the worst roles now, if not THE worst (apart from a few op ones of course) and tanks ARE op. Last Whisper got basically removed, bork got nerfed hard and no one builds it anymore, tank masteries are strong as heck compared to others (except for precision and thunderlords).
Raoul3 votesYou compare role to champiuon type! Junglers and Mid laners changed during the Metas! Mages, Assassins, ADCs and even Bruisers took mid lane! Jungle was populated by Tanks, Assassins, Bruisers, Mages, and again, ADCs too. Even the support role changed over the Metas, Real support Champions, mages, Tanks... The only thing that never changed was the second place bot: ALWAYS ADC! its the only role that NEVER had more than one kind of Champion playing.
"XYZ Meta" is always used when one class is so strong, that you most likely see it used in both teams 100% of all games. And by that Logic, Season 1-6 are ALL ADC Meta!
x UNL3ASH3D z1 votesbecause as explained above, which i know is hard for you to comprehend, league is about objectives... and adc's can seige towers and without adcs you can seige a tower all day but you cant hit the tower with melee champs unless you dive.. therefore you have to play adcs to be able to seige towers effectively....
which is why you funnel gold into them... so that they can help your siege be viable.. so that when your midlaner wins your adc can come mid and take towers to further push the lead... other than that they did nothing season 3-5 until like full 5 item builds.
Penns1 votesJust because adcs were played a lot doesnt mean they were to strong at all. If anything, it means that they are consistent enough. And there are poke adcs, burst adcs, splitpushing adcs, late game adcs... But that doesnt say anything. Adcs were too weak and they are probably too weak again now. Adding more diverse items doesnt even necessarily mean that they got buffed and if they did, the Last Whisper nerf totally made up for it.
x UNL3ASH3D z2 votesthey didnt remove lw Lord dominiks is way better than the old LW
it adds 15% damage agains tanks before crit..
0.15 x 2.5 = 0.375 aka on crits ld adds 37.5% damage to your aa's
making ur aa's with ie and Ld like 290% damage.
stack that on like caitlyn and you're golden. tank shredder extraordinaire.
all that stuff applies before so like 15% before crit multiplier
%pen before flat pen etc.
Penns1 votesIt might be better against 500 armor tanks (tho it probably still isnt), but it doesnt do ANYTHING against ANY other champion and its not even worth buying against just 1 armor item like 
. Last Whisper was basically core third or fourth item on every adc and AD assassin, now no one builds it? Why, if its better than before?
x UNL3ASH3D z1 votesif you read what I said you'd understand that is way better in this meta where people play cleaver/roa midlaners.... 290% crit damage is way better than losing out on your like 95 extra armor the old Lw penned... which btw 90 x .4 = 40 armor 37.5% increased damage is the same amount basically that that armor would block since 40 armor is 40% efficient..
noone builds it because lifesteal is more effective... because the tanks are so massive because of masteries like strength of ages and cinderhulk having a deathcap for hp... that without lifesteal 3rd you'd never stay alive long enough to cut through them...... it has nothing to do with armor pen at all it's literally just a matter of you simply dont have enough health to sustain through a fight without going LS 3rd item..
tldr; because this is a health stacking meta and not an armor stacking meta it's way better.
Penns1 votesIm saying Last Whisper is useless, not LD passive, which is basically Giant Slayer times 1.5.
Its probably better to just buy 
, let it sit there and build life steal or crit. Losing 5% dmg is most likely worth not wasting 1700 gold on Last Whisper.
Same goes for playing against Mundo, just get 
but pls dont touch its useless "evolution" (no idea how thats called lol) until you have 6 items.
x UNL3ASH3D z1 votesthat's like saying new lw is shit because its the same price as a zeal instead of being 2135... the ld is only 600g more and it's way better lol
x UNL3ASH3D z1 voteslets say you're vs anivia and it has a roa so it's like 2400 hp level 18 with 70 armor
lets say you have old Lw :
40% pen 40 ad. about 250 ad you have 42 armor left on her and 2400 hp... armor is % effective so 2400 x 1,42 = 3408 hp worth of damage after resistances.
3408 hp / 250 ad = 13.6 ~ 14 aa's if you never crit.
now you have Ld:
40% pen on bonus 40 ad 250 ad. she has about 65 armor (armor yellows) 2400 hp 2400 x 1.65 = 3960 hp
3960/ (250x1,15) = 13,75 ~ 14 aa's if you never crit... and if you crit its more effective obviously cuz ud have 2.88x250 vs 2.5x250
this is only vs a health stacker vs armor and health its severely more effective lol.
Penns1 votesIs that how effective hp works? You just take HP x 1.(armor)?
And even if ld is good, Im saying only Last Whisper and its passive is nearly useless. Again, just get a + a 
+ 400 gold for whatever you want, does it make such a big difference?
x UNL3ASH3D z1 votesyes armor is 1% effective upon hp.
sorry i took a while to reply.
Ld is severely better than old Lw against actual armor tho.
and its actually slightly better late against people with no armor with 1 hp item.
giant slayer -> Ld isnt necessarily a bad idea.
but the second that that mundo builds a dead man's his health becomes like i dont know how much armor but approximately 160% of what it would be in terms of raw damage.
so 35% of that dead mans .35 x .6 = .21 so 21% of his effective health out of the 60% he bought. vs a giant slayer which is 1.1 x your ad
which at that point in the game your ad is only like 160-200 tops so you're like 220 damage aa's as opposed to something like lw
where u have 190 damage aa's but his effective health is only 139% instead of 160% which on a mundo saves u more aa's than a giant slayer. where as on something like swain where he just builds roa with nothing but health on it giant slayer would be better obv.
what you deserve1 votesThey were a must have for their sieging potential but still weak generally, that's why their itemization was buffed.
Lucent Rengar2 votesdo you know anything about the game?
x UNL3ASH3D z2 votesdo you? you're mad because they finally made viable ad items? other than the hexdrinker and they made build paths for ad's versatile so you dont have to just go ie bt pd...
oh man...
the only reason adcs are needed in games since like season 3-5 is to seige towers.. which you would know if you weren't baaaaaaaaaaaad if there was a way to properly siege towers without marksman they wouldnt be played. well they would be this season cuz they're not garbage anymore.