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@Meddler, is Darius forgotten again for 2 years?

Dormidon··2 votes·630 views
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  1. Really?** August 2012**. First note about Darius rework. Morello said: "Changes, not nerfs. Not buffs, both. Please stop carrying things to a ridiculous extreme and then assigning intent." January 2013: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/01/morellos-thoughts-on-reworking-darius.html - 10 stacks. Physical damage ultimate. New utility stuff. Okay. Awesome! March 2013. Patch 3.03. Really? What the... we've seen January post about 10 stacks and something.... After 2 months you just nerfed him. January 2014 http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/01/red-post-collection-reworks-discussion.html - Darius & Gankplank rework in development. Okay. **May 2015 **Patch 5.7. Finally. After 2 years of suffering. Atleast something. But... is that all? I don't believe that. I can't believe that. Just tell me. Is that all? If that is all then I will be able to forget about this and stop play with him

16 Comments

NemeBro2 votes

Why does Darius need a rework?

Dormidon1 votes

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Why does Darius need a rework?

Open links and read. Silly question

NemeBro2 votes

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Open links and read. Silly question

I read them.

I still don't see why he needs a rework.

Dormidon1 votes

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I read them.

I still don't see why he needs a rework.

Completely no ultility in teamfights? Getting outscaled by everyone else? Useless late game? Falls off if not fed? Enough reasons. I'm not talking about "easy to kite/easy to gank" stuff. It's more about procs and cons. Darius is good only against noobs. And that's the trouble.

NemeBro3 votes

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Completely no ultility in teamfights? Getting outscaled by everyone else? Useless late game? Falls off if not fed? Enough reasons. I'm not talking about "easy to kite/easy to gank" stuff. It's more about procs and cons. Darius is good only against noobs. And that's the trouble.

He has a hook and a slow. Peel for the ADC and kill the pesky assassin that's trying to kill them. Sure, he's not the best team fighter, but he's not completely awful either.

Him getting outscaled isn't a problem though, is it? He's an early to mid game champion. What's wrong with that?

There are plenty of people who main Darius and do fine in plat+ though. If you have 15-50 games under your belt his win rate averages over 50%, so he's basically okay. The best pick? No, not really. A horrible pick? Nah. He's no Olaf.

I mean, he might benefit from a buff (and I certainly wouldn't refuse one), but an actual rework? I don't see why.

Dormidon1 votes

I can say "he's fine" about every champion by listing his stuff. Even Olaf is "fine". They were promissing rework for 3 years. 3 goddamn years. Even Sion recieved it. I don't really ask for rework but Darius needs more adjustments. For example Noxian Guollotine damage buff after successfully dunk. (20% bonus true damage for 20 seconds after refresh.) Anyway he's getting kited hard so why not?

NemeBro2 votes

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I can say "he's fine" about every champion by listing his stuff. Even Olaf is "fine". They were promissing rework for 3 years. 3 goddamn years. Even Sion recieved it. I don't really ask for rework but Darius needs more adjustments. For example Noxian Guollotine damage buff after successfully dunk. (20% bonus true damage for 20 seconds after refresh.) Anyway he's getting kited hard so why not?

I would never say Olaf is fine. Olaf is basically a worse version of Darius in almost every way, IMO. At least Darius doesn't have a fucking ultimate that makes him squishier when he uses it.

See, I don't think Darius needs a rework. A buff? Adjustments? Sure man. But I don't see anything wrong with his kit tbh, and changing his kit in some way is what a rework would entail (like how GP is apparently losing his E).

What I'd really like to see be done is to have the bug on his bleed damage fixed, before anything else.

Dormidon1 votes

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I would never say Olaf is fine. Olaf is basically a worse version of Darius in almost every way, IMO. At least Darius doesn't have a fucking ultimate that makes him squishier when he uses it.

See, I don't think Darius needs a rework. A buff? Adjustments? Sure man. But I don't see anything wrong with his kit tbh, and changing his kit in some way is what a rework would entail (like how GP is apparently losing his E).

What I'd really like to see be done is to have the bug on his bleed damage fixed, before anything else.

Only numbers can't really help Darius to become more playable in higer elo. His lanining is fine. Roam is fine too. Just buff his passive - his laning will become even more painful for enemies. Darius needs ultimate buff. This won't change his weakness but he will be more dangerous in teamfight. For 20 seconds. And there will be still a lot counterplay. I don't like Olaf discussion. His toolkit has no counter play from the beginning. They tried to make him more flexible but... he got completely ruined. And I feel sorry about him. There's no way how to make CC immune more fun to play against. So Olaf got 2 ways with his toolkit. 1) Being weak as fck. No one would care about him 2) Wrecking every single one opponent.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Why would he even need a rework? He is still one of the biggest lane bully, and one of a few to counter Nasus of which I've seen countless QQ threads about the dog.

Dormidon1 votes

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Why would he even need a rework? He is still one of the biggest lane bully, and one of a few to counter Nasus of which I've seen countless QQ threads about the dog.

You can't really "counter" Nasus in higer elo. Nasus is able to stay carefully till the level 9-11... and then... Easily destroy Darius (W + jungler's gank. 1 kill ahead and Nasus outscales him really hard.). Nasus is getting stronger every minute. Darius is getting worse every second. That's the deal. Lane bully. Really? Who cares about bullies these days. Teleport meta you know. This game is about teamfight all day long. Darius's teamfight is useless.

MLDzXnRRR2 votes

Darius with ignite is unbeatable in lane and can 1v2 melee champions. If he gets ignored in Tf, because of being a tank, he can stack his pasive and dunk at least 3 people. TP is against all the lanes bullies like him Riven, Renek, Panth, who get outscaled by the other laner.

Dormidon1 votes

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Darius with ignite is unbeatable in lane and can 1v2 melee champions. If he gets ignored in Tf, because of being a tank, he can stack his pasive and dunk at least 3 people. TP is against all the lanes bullies like him Riven, Renek, Panth, who get outscaled by the other laner.

This is not about his laning.

Dormidon1 votes

We can't wait more years to get some changes in that question. 2012-2015. ._. The last time we've seen Darius in competitive scene: Open image. What's about that?

Dormidon1 votes

Bump! Bump! Waiting!

HorusEye1 votes

What's there to bump? You got downvoted, other commenters disagree with your thoughts, and we have better champs Yorick Taric that needs rework than a Darius.

Dormidon1 votes

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What's there to bump? You got downvoted, other commenters disagree with your thoughts, and we have better champs Yorick Taric that needs rework than a Darius.

Who cares about Taric and Yorick? They were at least super strong in season 2 meta. Darius was never in meta at all.

Needs rework. They promissed Yorick/Taric rework way way later than Darius's in first place.

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