If the counter to true damage is...

1437613471347134·Oct 21, 2018·2 votes·2,232 views

Health, then what does PYKE build against it??

19 Comments

DODGEORLOSEOct 21, 20187 votes

ad, ad, more ad, maybe throw some ad in there, assassins like ad right? i think maybe just add a bit more ad just to be safe

1437613471347134Oct 21, 20181 votes

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ad, ad, more ad, maybe throw some ad in there, assassins like ad right? i think maybe just add a bit more ad just to be safe

That's not helpful against a fed yasuo with conquer

AhpeOct 21, 20181 votes

As long as you have your carry with you who is actually carrying I don't see the problem. And if it's a Yasuo dealing the true damage, try atleast building a item 3110 item 3143 item 3075 to help against the physical damage but like only if their comp permits these items.

True GarenOct 28, 20184 votes

Shields and stasis effects could be options. Or reducing the instances of damage with Cold Steel and Cripple effects. Abilities which deal true damage can still be blocked, so Edge of Night is an option for an assassin like Pyke...

True GarenOct 28, 20184 votes

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Shields and stasis effects could be options. Or reducing the instances of damage with Cold Steel and Cripple effects. Abilities which deal true damage can still be blocked, so Edge of Night is an option for an assassin like Pyke...

Also, Health is not always a counter to True Damage. Building health will not counter %Health True Damage.

1437613471347134Oct 28, 20181 votes

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Shields and stasis effects could be options. Or reducing the instances of damage with Cold Steel and Cripple effects. Abilities which deal true damage can still be blocked, so Edge of Night is an option for an assassin like Pyke...

I see that, however, master yi, conquer, garen villain, etc uncounterable since it's tdps % true damage is op js

True GarenOct 29, 20184 votes

Master Yi should be reduced with Cold Steel. Garen Villain Ult could be blocked like any other ability. Building health is not a counter to Garen villain, since it scales with enemy health. Conqueror would be situational.

Need Gold 4 TentOct 21, 20183 votes

Damage. Dead champs can't do true damage kappa

Kiting DeathOct 21, 20182 votes

My conqueror mordekaiser would like to have a word with you about true damage...

ez mental boomOct 21, 20181 votes

damage

Lord GuanOct 21, 20181 votes

~~Damage reduction.~~ ~~Ninja Tabi~~ item 3047 ~~12%~~ ~~Phantom Dancer~~ item 3046 ~~12%~~ ~~Death's Dance~~ item 3812 ~~30%~~ ~~Death's Dance is really good.~~ edit: Damage reduction does not reduce true damage.

I guess your options are slow their attack speed with something like Exhaust summoner 3 or a Cold Steel item (Warden's Mail item 3082 , Frozen Heart item 3110 , Randuin's Omen item 3143 , Thornmail item 3075 ), or have a shield like Barrier summoner 21 or Locket of the Iron Solari item 3190 .

Daddy AntsOct 21, 20181 votes

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~~Damage reduction.~~ ~~Ninja Tabi~~ ~~12%~~ ~~Phantom Dancer~~ ~~12%~~ ~~Death's Dance~~ ~~30%~~ ~~Death's Dance is really good.~~ edit: Damage reduction does not reduce true damage.

I guess your options are slow their attack speed with something like Exhaust or a Cold Steel item (Warden's Mail , Frozen Heart , Randuin's Omen , Thornmail ), or have a shield like Barrier or Locket of the Iron Solari .

Death's Dance isn't a damage reduction though.

All it does is delay a % of the damage taken and you take it as a DoT.

Lord GuanOct 21, 20181 votes

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Death's Dance isn't a damage reduction though.

All it does is delay a % of the damage taken and you take it as a DoT.

Death's Dance is an extremely powerful anti-burst item.

item 3812

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Death's_Dance

UNIQUE: Stores 30% of all physical and magic damage received, and is taken as damage over time true damage instead, dealing one-third of the stored damage every second.

This is effectively a 30% damage reduction of the initial hit and is extremely effective when combined with champions that can counter the resulting damage over time with massive self-healing such as Pyke Pyke with his passive.

Unfortunately however, this item does not store true damage.

Daddy AntsOct 22, 20181 votes

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Death's Dance is an extremely powerful anti-burst item.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Death's_Dance

UNIQUE: Stores 30% of all physical and magic damage received, and is taken as damage over time true damage instead, dealing one-third of the stored damage every second.

This is effectively a 30% damage reduction of the initial hit and is extremely effective when combined with champions that can counter the resulting damage over time with massive self-healing such as Pyke with his passive.

Unfortunately however, this item does not store true damage.

Yes I get your point but it's not a damage "reduction" item.

All it does is store 30% of damage taken and make you take it as a true damage dot.

You're still talking 100% of the damage, just 30% is delayed.

Nothing is getting "reduced"

It works similar to how Stagger works for Monks in World of Warcraft.

Lord GuanOct 22, 20181 votes

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Yes I get your point but it's not a damage "reduction" item.

All it does is store 30% of damage taken and make you take it as a true damage dot.

You're still talking 100% of the damage, just 30% is delayed.

Nothing is getting "reduced"

It works similar to how Stagger works for Monks in World of Warcraft.

The impact of the initial damage instance is reduced by 30%.

DuskDaUmbreonOct 21, 20181 votes

Pyke? He buys coaching classes to learn to position better.

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But, seriously now. He gets either AD (which, interestingly enough, means buying health is still the correct answer) to kill the target first, or he gets output reduction effects, such as item 3110 's AS slow.

item 3812 is also a valid option (as damage is still delayed, iirc), as is any sustain.

Slythrin UmbreonOct 21, 20181 votes

item 1028 More damage

Critmaster GarenOct 21, 20181 votes

pyke is an assassin.

hes not even supposed to get tanky. thats the entire point of the health to ad conversion of his passive. the idea was that he was physically incapable of getting tanky.